Israel 1 , Iran 0.

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9 hours ago, Halfhound said:

I still put the root of this current conflict down to the Israeli land grabbing. People can put whatever biased views they want on it but it is what it is. 

Can I ask what land are the Israelis trying to "grab"

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9 minutes ago, Chid said:

Can I ask what land are the Israelis trying to "grab"

Is that a serious question?

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36 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

I said Jewish aggression in the Middle East could be a part of europes recent woes WILF. You don’t need to try and swing every topic around to use as a way to vent your views everyone knows them already. If you agree with how Israel has carried on that’s fair enough but I reckon that’s just you sticking your chest out and supporting the killing of innocent Muslims 10000s of miles from you simply because you didn’t like the ones who moved in down the road. Now don’t take this the wrong way but if I arrived up to your place today and knocked your door and shot you in the head when you answered then grabbed your wife and kids and fired them out onto the road and laughed saying I own this now tough shit ye have no right to be here piss off. Does that make me an Irish patriot fully within his rights or an arsehole bully? Because it’s essentially the same thing that’s went on. 

Surely you are bias towards what you have been told too? As you seem to still compare it to ireland vs the brits, did you not work in england for years? And how was your stay there?  

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1 hour ago, Halfhound said:

I said Jewish aggression in the Middle East could be a part of europes recent woes WILF. You don’t need to try and swing every topic around to use as a way to vent your views everyone knows them already. If you agree with how Israel has carried on that’s fair enough but I reckon that’s just you sticking your chest out and supporting the killing of innocent Muslims 10000s of miles from you simply because you didn’t like the ones who moved in down the road. Now don’t take this the wrong way but if I arrived up to your place today and knocked your door and shot you in the head when you answered then grabbed your wife and kids and fired them out onto the road and laughed saying I own this now tough shit ye have no right to be here piss off. Does that make me an Irish patriot fully within his rights or an arsehole bully? Because it’s essentially the same thing that’s went on. 

I’m not sticking my chest out at all mate, it’s black and white…..Hamas attacked Isreal on the 7th of October, they committed some of the most beastly atrocities known to man, Hamas has been routinely attacking Isreal for years, the people of Gaza voted for Hamas…..now they are reaping the whirlwind !

As you say, you could land up at mine or anyone else’s place and shoot me or whoever else you wanted……but don’t cry foul when some way bigger people rock up and rinse you and everyone else you’ve ever known as retribution !

Thats how life works isn’t it…..

All these terrorists are big when they are levelling women and children in shopping centres on a Saturday, they ain’t so big when Airborne forces and a squadron of fighter jets show up…..I’d say Isreal have shown massive restraint, take it back eighty years, if Hamas had done that to the Germans they have shown up with the Das Reich, slaughtered every living thing, bulldozed Gaza flat and made it a park to send resting troops on holiday ! 

These wars extend and are protracted precisely because terrorists are picking civilised enemy’s, the targets of these terrorists are playing by rules that the terrorists are not….they only want to invoke these rules when it’s them on the receiving end. 

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1 hour ago, Chid said:

Can I ask what land are the Israelis trying to "grab"

Greater isreal 

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4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Greater isreal 

“We have nowhere else to go”……Thats Isreal !

The yids are going nowhere…..so, these Arabs can either accept they are going nowhere and find a way to all live their lives or they can keep doing what they are doing and reaping the fall out.

Like, it’s pretty f***ing simple really   

Edited March 26 by WILF

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m not sticking my chest out at all mate, it’s black and white…..Hamas attacked Isreal on the 7th of October, they committed some of the most beastly atrocities known to man, Hamas has been routinely attacking Isreal for years, the people of Gaza voted for Hamas…..now they are reaping the whirlwind !

As you say, you could land up at mine or anyone else’s place and shoot me or whoever else you wanted……but don’t cry foul when some way bigger people rock up and rinse you and everyone else you’ve ever known as retribution !

Thats how life works isn’t it…..

All these terrorists are big when they are levelling women and children in shopping centres on a Saturday, they ain’t so big when Airborne forces and a squadron of fighter jets show up…..I’d say Isreal have shown massive restraint, take it back eighty years, if Hamas had done that to the Germans they have shown up with the Das Reich, slaughtered every living thing, bulldozed Gaza flat and made it a park to send resting troops on holiday ! 

These wars extend and are protracted precisely because terrorists are picking civilised enemy’s, the targets of these terrorists are playing by rules that the terrorists are not….they only want to invoke these rules when it’s them on the receiving end. 

Again that's coming from country's that are our friends bin laden was Saudi his family pals with the bushs who was a cia director lol not iran 

Hamas attacked iran because there packed in like animals stuck between a rock and harf place who's forefathers fought for there own land helped the west to be fuvked off and it given to isreal its our doing really 

 

You can say iran pays hamas more than likely theres mossed controlling em what about the yids trying to kill us service men attacking there ship 

Having nukes here not allowed to have why haven't america bombed there nuclear facility's?? 

 

I get the part were its the west so us against them but you still.see whats what wilf its like a mate you'd back them but say look your in the wrong there 

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Just now, mC HULL said:

Again that's coming from country's that are our friends bin laden was Saudi his family pals with the bushs who was a cia director lol not iran 

Hamas attacked iran because there packed in like animals stuck between a rock and harf place who's forefathers fought for there own land helped the west to be fuvked off and it given to isreal its our doing really 

 

You can say iran pays hamas more than likely theres mossed controlling em what about the yids trying to kill us service men attacking there ship 

Having nukes here not allowed to have why haven't america bombed there nuclear facility's?? 

 

I get the part were its the west so us against them but you still.see whats what wilf its like a mate you'd back them but say look your in the wrong there 

Ask yourself why none of the surrounding Muslim Arab country’s want the people of Gaza ?…..like, they won’t take them !

They have Arab country’s on 2 of 3 sides I believe, but they wont let them in as refugees…..wonder why that is ?

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Wasn't Palestine part of Judea for 4000 years?    ie. 'land of the jews'

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10 minutes ago, WILF said:

Ask yourself why none of the surrounding Muslim Arab country’s want the people of Gaza ?…..like, they won’t take them !

They have Arab country’s on 2 of 3 sides I believe, but they wont let them in as refugees…..wonder why that is ?

? Isreal surrounds the west bank and Jordan ? Charts help me lol 

Is at one side I think and they have loads a refugees mate 

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15 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Wasn't Palestine part of Judea for 4000 years?    ie. 'land of the jews'

What is a jew mate ? Its religion there mostly white lol from russia eastern Europe etc 

You've just answered your own question Palestine is philistines I think? There from Greece mate 

Original jusea been  full of Arabs not Europeans like now 

Me gran was a jew  

Edited March 26 by mC HULL

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After WW2, the Allies, basically the US and UK, were discussing where the Jewish homeland could be situated. 
The three suggestions were the British Palestine Mandate, Uganda and the eastern province of Saudi Arabia.

King Ibn Saud was asked about it and he said “why do the Jews need a homeland ?” , and was told “because the Germans murdered six million of them”.

After a moments thought, the king replied “ well, give them Germany ! “

Sounds sensible to me

Cheers.

 

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44 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

? Isreal surrounds the west bank and Jordan ? Charts help me lol 

Is at one side I think and they have loads a refugees mate 

Sorry, I just looked and I stand corrected mate….you are right.

I apologise, it only shares a land border with Jordan.

However, Jordan and Egypt have refused to take Palestinians, that’s well documented.

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14 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

After WW2, the Allies, basically the US and UK, were discussing where the Jewish homeland could be situated. 
The three suggestions were the British Palestine Mandate, Uganda and the eastern province of Saudi Arabia.

King Ibn Saud was asked about it and he said “why do the Jews need a homeland ?” , and was told “because the Germans murdered six million of them”.

After a moments thought, the king replied “ well, give them Germany ! “

Sounds sensible to me

Cheers.

 

Was there some historical religious context to the decision about the location ? 

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2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Sorry, I just looked and I stand corrected mate….you are right.

I apologise, it only shares a land border with Jordan.

However, Jordan and Egypt have refused to take Palestinians, that’s well documented.

I may have been the Syrian war were they took refugees mate not from the west bank then