Ice shooting

[WILF 52,001]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Think you're going off  on one. Not much coherence in evidence today. Like Trump you're just firing off bollocks.

Anyway a day or so back you were praising the protesters for fighting back against  the unwanted invaders ( my words). Now they are American herpes ( that's a typo but I'm leaving it as it is).

One day you are Jekyll and others Hyde. And some days (your better, more entertaining days) you are a pissed up Alf Garnett.

What I said was “I’m a massive believer in people should be able to protest in their own land in any way they see fit even if that means obstruction or disruption….even if we don’t agree with them”

I also went on to say that the tipping point is violence and if you play the game of violence be prepared to loose.

What that has to do with also stating that the left are a disease that should be locked up I don’t know ?

See, here is the thing, I do believe all the above but I also know that the same courtesy wouldn’t be extended to me.

I also know what we are dealing with which is a bunch of rabid beasts who have destroyed my nation, my continent and it seems like the western world. 
 

One thing is a belief 

One thing is an opinion 

One thing is a fact 

So no, I’m not confused in the slightest.

[jukel123 10,077]

1 minute ago, mackem said:

I will keep you on the right track old bean  

Same Mack. Arguing from the particular to the general is wooly thinking .

For example, you find a single photo of a protester  ( one particular protester with a mask) and  attempt to argue that generally all, or most protesters wear masks. But that is not true given the video evidence. What is true is that ICE agents are authorised to wear masks because it protects their identity, which in my view is wrong.

It's the same argument I've heard dozens of times. 'Old Jimmy smoked 60 Capstan full strength for 60 years. He died at 96 from a road accident. Smoking does you no harm. ' Which is bollox. Yes one particular individual survived a heavy smoking habit, but generally folk die earlier ( 10 years I think?) If they smoke for many years.

Thought for the day.

 

[WILF 52,001]

@jukel123

Question:

Do you believe the left since Blair is the same left as Atlee ?

 

Edited Wednesday at 19:34 by WILF

[jukel123 10,077]

11 minutes ago, WILF said:

What I said was “I’m a massive believer in people should be able to protest in their own land in any way they see fit even if that means obstruction or disruption….even if we don’t agree with them”

I also went on to say that the tipping point is violence and if you play the game of violence be prepared to loose.

What that has to do with also stating that the left are a disease that should be locked up I don’t know ?

See, here is the thing, I do believe all the above but I also know that the same courtesy wouldn’t be extended to me.

I also know what we are dealing with which is a bunch of rabid beasts who have destroyed my nation, my continent and it seems like the western world. 
 

One thing is a belief 

One thing is an opinion 

One thing is a fact 

So no, I’m not confused in the slightest.

Your world view and your opinions inevitably always come back to race. It's a monkey on your back ( no pun intended) you cannot shake.

Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion.

And I am entitled to mine. 

[jukel123 10,077]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

@jukel123

Question:

Do you believe the left since Blair is the same left as Atlee ?

 

No Words cannot express my loathing for Blair.

[mackem 31,181]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Same Mack. Arguing from the particular to the general is wooly thinking .

For example, you find a single photo of a protester  ( one particular protester with a mask) and  attempt to argue that generally all, or most protesters wear masks. But that is not true given the video evidence. 

Ummmmm NO that was a pic of the TV screen,the news shows lots of “immigration and customs enforcement watch groups”  thats what they call themselves,they set up roadblocks and try to deny ICE access to certain areas,many of them are masked,not just that one so yes psychobabble auld Jimmy and his capstans is a bad analogy  

[WILF 52,001]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Your world view and your opinions inevitably always come back to race. It's a monkey on your back ( no pun intended) you cannot shake.

Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion.

And I am entitled to mine. 

Where did I mention race ?….

[WILF 52,001]

Just now, jukel123 said:

No Words cannot express my loathing for Blair.

So why are you still backing people like Blair ?

[jukel123 10,077]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Where did I mention race ?….

Come on, its rots your soul.

[jukel123 10,077]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

So why are you still backing people like Blair ?

I do not.

[WILF 52,001]

Just now, jukel123 said:

Come on, its rots your soul.

Wether it does or wether it’s doesn’t has no bearing on the fact you just made that up because I never mentioned it.

[mackem 31,181]

@jukel123 here you go mate,masks galore at ICE raids and anti-ice protests,not just one example.

[WILF 52,001]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

I do not.

Yeah, you do……

Oh wait, did you still think we lived in a time when people could hold opposing views freely ?

Id check back with all socialist legislation of the last 40 years if I was you 

Did you forget the people who got jailed or lost their job because of words ?

Has it slipped your mind how everyone at the unite the kingdom March was a racist ?

Id check again if I was you 

People like me didn’t do any of that…..

[jukel123 10,077]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Wether it does or wether it’s doesn’t has no bearing on the fact you just made that up because I never mentioned it.

 

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Where did I mention race ?….

"Rabid beasts who have" destroyed my nation." I'm sorry, you usually  mean immigrants when you write like that. I should have sussed you meant me. What did I do ? I had 47 years of NI stamps when I retired. Paid my unfair taxes. Raised  two good kids. I was faithful to my wife. Kept my head down and took all the shit thrown at me. Yes I used to vote Labour. What a  kunt I am.

[mackem 31,181]

Just now, jukel123 said:

 What a  kunt I am.

Was,past tense,you aren’t a bad bloke nowadays