Mass shooting Australia.

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3 hours ago, chartpolski said:

That’s not the truth though .

I’ll give two personal examples ;

Ive friends I’ve stayed with in Australia who are Palestinian with Australian nationality. Both husband and wife, and their kids are typical Aussies, they love Australia, one is a doctor, the other is a teacher.

Another family I have stayed with , the husband is a Sri Lankan Christian , his wife is a Muslim Palestinian, again, both have embraced the Australian way of life.

The Muslim shopkeeper obviously put his self in danger to stop a Muslim terrorist from killing fellow Australians who happened to be Jewish .

As I’ve said many times in the past, I’m  a weird person who is an Arabist, ( but certainly not an Islamist), who also is a Zionist, who believes the Jews should have a homeland in Israel.

The guy who disarmed the terrorist deserves our respect……

Cheers.

No mate, you are doing what all the governments of world want you to do and that is “individualising” a problem that is actually a problem of scale ! 
 

It’s the “ is there any decent Muslims” scenario, well of course there is but the problem isn’t the individual and what’s more there is no way to sort out the “ok” individual……the enemy is the blood to coin an old phrase ! 
So, yes it is a fact that if none of them were in western country’s they wouldn’t be committing atrocities in western country’s, they wouldn’t be degrading our society’s, there wouldn’t be Muslim rape gangs…..no Muslims, no problems domestically that come with Muslims….that just can’t be argued with. 
 

The “well I know a decent paki” argument is meaningless !……we ain’t got 1, we got millions ! 

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11 minutes ago, WILF said:

No mate, you are doing what all the governments of world want you to do and that is “individualising” a problem that is actually a problem of scale ! 
 

It’s the “ is there any decent Muslims” scenario, well of course there is but the problem isn’t the individual and what’s more there is no way to sort out the “ok” individual……the enemy is the blood to coin an old phrase ! 
So, yes it is a fact that if none of them were in western country’s they wouldn’t be committing atrocities in western country’s, they wouldn’t be degrading our society’s, there wouldn’t be Muslim rape gangs…..no Muslims, no problems domestically that come with Muslims….that just can’t be argued with. 
 

The “well I know a decent paki” argument is meaningless !……we ain’t got 1, we got millions ! 

Let’s put it this way;

If my family were in the sights of a deranged terrorist gunman, and a complete stranger risked his life to disarm the terrorist, I wouldn’t stop him and say “whoa mate, what religion are you and what nationality are you ? “

Cheers.

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Just now, chartpolski said:

Let’s put it this way;

If my family were in the sights of a deranged terrorist gunman, and a complete stranger risked his life to disarm the terrorist, I wouldn’t stop him and say “whoa mate, what religion are you and what nationality are you ? “

Cheers.

That’s a completely different argument, the fact is he shouldn’t even be there for you to have the conversation !

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

That’s a completely different argument, the fact is he shouldn’t even be there for you to have the conversation !

No it’s not; you moved the narrative.

I originally said I don’t care what religion or nationality the guy was who disarmed the terrorist, I consider him a hero. 
You replied to that post.

Cheers.

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1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

No it’s not; you moved the narrative.

I originally said I don’t care what religion or nationality the guy was who disarmed the terrorist, I consider him a hero. 
You replied to that post.

Cheers.

If they ain’t there you don’t need a hero, simple as that !

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I’m sick of hearing the same narrative when Muslims carry out these slaughters from do-gooders defending them anyway they can either “Not all Muslims” “Islamophobia” ect ect ect when mentioning their religion , look what they the powers that be did after Southport , attacked people who where rightfully angry upset horrified whilst holding back information which they knew on the terrorist then jailed people who should never of been jailed which was a show of power to silence us , Israel you may dislike but there mindset isn’t to behead you rape your children whereas as Islam creates this mindset based on the Koran , everywhere in the western world where these beliefs have got a foothold it’s happening and you ain’t changing that mindset , Xmas markets have barriers Why Muslim terror attacks , airport security Why Muslim terror attacks , 1000s on a terror watch list yet that spineless b*****d Starmer states the far right are the problem think about that , Thatcher would of stopped the boats from France with one phone call love her or hate her she was feared by everyone as she didn’t give a fukc who she upset protecting her people from terrorism , the Iranian embassy became iconic as she wanted the world to see how we’d deal with threats and it worked now imagine the treacherous fuckers today being faced with that situation and how they’d react , they’d bend over backwards for the terrorist whilst jailing people he had Thatchers mindset , 100s a day are arriving here unhindered and undocumented and when these attacks happen people act shocked the shock is it’s not more often , there’s horrific crimes happening daily in the uk most ignored by main stream media at the request of the government so not to create tension against the religion of peace , this ideology is the danger that’s going nowhere only growing stronger , I dread to think what the uk will be like in 20yrs as they’ll be Muslims running everything power wise their virtually there now , Government Councils Police are awash with them and they ain’t doing what’s right for the non Muslim it’s all in their favour . 

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Only a gooner could say it so well ! 

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12 hours ago, chartpolski said:

No it’s not; you moved the narrative.

I originally said I don’t care what religion or nationality the guy was who disarmed the terrorist, I consider him a hero. 
You replied to that post.

Cheers.

You also gave examples of:

”I know this decent Muslim” and “that decent Muslim” like that means anything…..so no, I didn’t move the narrative at all. 

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4 minutes ago, WILF said:

You also gave examples of:

”I know this decent Muslim” and “that decent Muslim” like that means anything…..so no, I didn’t move the narrative at all. 

Let me make this clear ;

I would immediately stop all illegal immigration into this country by any means necessary and deport all those here illegally.

I would drastically curtail legal immigration and only those who have the necessary skills that we need would be allowed in on short term contracts until a British national was trained and available to replace them and then they would be sent home..

But none of this has any baring on the fact I think a man who put his own life in danger to save the lives of others is a hero, regardless of his religion or ethnicity.

Cheers.

[mackem 30,987]

The gunmen were a father and son,Pakistani origin.

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Australian prime minister has said they need to look at further gun control

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9 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Australian prime minister has said they need to look at further gun control

It’s being said that Australia has some of the toughest gun laws in the world, but the times I’ve been there hunting, everybody , ( ok, they are hunters, not the general population), had a variety of shotguns and rifles, and nobody had any qualms about lending me one of their weapons !

If a terrorist wants a gun, they’ll get one, no amount of “tightening” gun laws will stop it; it will only affect people with a genuine need for a gun.

Cheers.

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2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

If a terrorist wants a gun, they’ll get one, no amount of “tightening” gun laws will stop it; 

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

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11 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

It’s being said that Australia has some of the toughest gun laws in the world, but the times I’ve been there hunting, everybody , ( ok, they are hunters, not the general population), had a variety of shotguns and rifles, and nobody had any qualms about lending me one of their weapons !

If a terrorist wants a gun, they’ll get one, no amount of “tightening” gun laws will stop it; it will only affect people with a genuine need for a gun.

Cheers.

I think there's certain areas in Australia where gun laws aren't as tight....northern territories and Tasmania. In the rest of Aus it's terrible and very anti hunting 

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3 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I think there's certain areas in Australia where gun laws aren't as tight....northern territories and Tasmania. In the rest of Aus it's terrible and very anti hunting 

I hunted around Vic, and have been to your namesake city. My daughter lived in Berwick suburb of Melbourne. 
I really enjoyed the mining museum village at Ballarat.

A great place and great people

Cheers.