Reform

[chartpolski 29,854]

9 minutes ago, mackem said:

I will pop my clogs long before you Charts,you will still be rolling when your 100

Insh’Allah

My missus said if anything happens to me she is going to sell up and move to Saudi or Dubai…….Should get a good hotel deal just now

Cheers.

Edited Tuesday at 15:25 by chartpolski

[Borr 9,103]

18 hours ago, mackem said:

The Rubin Report podcast I just put up mentions reform are now a diluted Conservative Party,started out well but…….

Reuben report is trash imho

[mackem 31,789]

5 minutes ago, Borr said:

Reuben report is trash imho

I disagree but that's cool,I wonder what's the reveal that TR is about to disclose?

[Borr 9,103]

Just about all councils will be increasing the allowed 5% , tax cuts for business which I guess reform were mostly refering to will boost growth , cutting benefits for non UK citizens will give us billions overnight , along with having the effect of 100s of k leaving of their own accord , saving NHS millions overnight, it's not rocket science just needs a party with balls to stand up and get it done.

[Borr 9,103]

Just now, mackem said:

I disagree but that's cool,I wonder what's the reveal that TR is about to disclose?

All their YouTube pictures are click bait , if they were decent in their own right they wouldn't need to 

[mackem 31,789]

Just now, Borr said:

All their YouTube pictures are click bait , if they were decent in their own right they wouldn't need to 

Did you watch the Link?It's mainly TR speaking.

[mackem 31,789]

2 minutes ago, Borr said:

 just needs a party with balls to stand up and get it done.

You genuinely believe that's reform?

[Borr 9,103]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

You genuinely believe that's reform?

I just feel that we forget where we were 5 years ago and reform would have been unbelievable , now we want restore , and we're still under labour. A poor analogy might be a guy works for a bad boss for 20 year then changes his job and realises it's easy and keeps changing his job thinking the change is the benefit , anyway shite analogy as I said but , can we just get reform and then if necessary get restore ...

[Borr 9,103]

Also I think starmer will be going for an EU move shortly ... Hence his hesitation on UK armed forces in the gulf

[mackem 31,789]

4 minutes ago, Borr said:

I just feel that we forget where we were 5 years ago and reform would have been unbelievable , now we want restore , and we're still under labour. A poor analogy might be a guy works for a bad boss for 20 year then changes his job and realises it's easy and keeps changing his job thinking the change is the benefit , anyway shite analogy as I said but , can we just get reform and then if necessary get restore ...

Thats the longest "Yes" or "No" i have ever read

In reality I just read reforms plan in their first term for repatriation 600,000 gone with 5 flights a day.

[Borr 9,103]

48 minutes ago, mackem said:

Thats the longest "Yes" or "No" i have ever read

In reality I just read reforms plan in their first term for repatriation 600,000 gone with 5 flights a day.

I think they have one go at it.

[WILF 52,909]

On 17/03/2026 at 17:18, Borr said:

I think they have one go at it.

I think a Green/Labour coalition will be the next government myself, Reform are busily engaged in committing suicide !

Reform won’t so much win the council elections as Labour and the Tory’s lose them but when it comes to the GE more people will have realised that Reform stand for nothing more than putting all the same people with all the same mealy mouthed sound bite lies back in charge…..lots of people won’t bother to get off their arse and vote for that because it’s just not inspiring and I don’t blame them.

The Greens will do well because they stand unashamedly for all the people they know will vote for them….they won’t be moderating their language, they won’t be worried about offending white British people….they will have a strong clear message.

If we don’t do the same we will lose, period !

Edited 6 hours ago by WILF

[WILF 52,909]

Meanwhile, at Restore Britain:

Restore Britain’s economic policy is about two words - freedom and fairness.

We must become globally competitive, all whilst ensuring our own people are the ones feeling the benefits.

Open to investment and creating an attractive home to build a business. But currently we are suffering with a broken system that is incredibly uncompetitive, overly complex, and yet amazingly permissive when it comes to the extraction of our wealth.

Corporation tax has risen. The regulatory burden has grown. Money flees Britain. We are living in the worst of all worlds. It stinks. We can all feel the unfairness in the air.

Billions of pounds generated within the British economy continue to flow out of the country each year through dividends, intra-company transfers, and other shady complex mechanisms - often with limited reinvestment and very often, sod all tax paid. Huge corporates stripping the British economy of its wealth. Under a Restore Britain Government, this will end.

This is unfair, this is unsustainable. This is not what we want.

It places an ever-greater burden on those who cannot restructure their affairs with expensive accountants or move their income offshore.

British workers, British sole traders, and British small business owners. On those who we rely so heavily, the current deal is a crap deal. The global corporates benefit, decent British men and women suffer. It is rotten.

Restore Britain takes a very different view.

The solution is not to retreat away from proper competition, nor to tax, tax tax. Instead, Britain must become both more competitive and more disciplined - a country that rewards enterprise while insisting on responsibility and fairness for the British people.

Firstly.

Britain should have the lowest corporation tax rate in Europe.

If Britain wishes to attract businesses, create jobs, and generate growth, it must offer a tax environment that is not merely competitive, but leading. Undercut our neighbours. Go for their business. We must be ruthless.

Send a powerful signal. Britain is once again serious about growth, serious about enterprise, and serious about rewarding those who build and invest.

But this alone is not enough.

A low-tax system that is easily exploited does not serve the British people.

Any low tax environment must matched by a determination to ensure that wealth generated here contributes fairly to the country in which it is created. 

Our country. Our economy. Our success.

Currently, large volumes of profit are distributed overseas through dividends and complex corporate structures allow for the shifting of profits out of the Britain on an industrial scale. This is morally wrong.

Restore Britain would address this imbalance directly and unashamedly.

We would introduce fair and proportionate withholding taxes on dividends paid to overseas shareholders, ensuring that profits generated in Britain deliver a reasonable return to the British economy. Not shifted off to some low-tax paradise, stripping the British economy of its own wealth and rewards.

Restore Britain would tighten the rules around profit-shifting and complex offshore arrangements, closing loopholes that exist purely to sneak money out of Britain.

All of this would be paired with a system that actively encourages reinvestment so that the incentive to do this would be lower and lower. There would be no need to extract wealth to a low tax environment, because Britain would be that low tax environment.

Businesses that retain profits in the UK investing in jobs, infrastructure, research, and expansion should benefit from a simpler, more favourable tax regime. If you want to contribute to our economy and infrastructure, you will be rewarded for doing so.

The five golden rules of business.

What’s. In. It. For. Me.

Restore Britain’s objective is not to penalise success, but to align business incentives with the long-term interests of the country. This is not complicated, it really isn’t.

For too long, the debate has been framed as a binary choice between being pro-business or pro-fairness. We disagree.

Britain can and should be both.

A country that attracts investment and rewards enterprise - but also one that ensures that the benefits of that growth are not systematically and deliberately extracted elsewhere to benefit foreign people and foreign lands.

If wealth is created in Britain, a fair share of it should remain in Britain - supporting local economies, from which our country’s success will flow.

Restore Britain will build an economy that does not work only for those who can freely move their untaxed money across borders, but for those who live, work, and raise families in our country.

Those who want an economy built on low, but fair, taxation - there is now a political party you can support.

Restore Britain.