WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Those engines will have to be removed , stripped and rebuilt. All bearings , injection parts, wiring and electronics replaced. They will then be sent to a test cell for testing, then remounted and ground tested, finally tested in flying conditions. Replacing a main rotor shaft on a big jet engine can cost half a million pound. Believe me, it’s something I have more than a little knowledge of The ironic thing is those Voyager aircraft are the very aircraft that were and are used to drop food aid into Gaza…… Even so , it doesn’t matter if they did £10 or £10,000,000, of damage, they were attacking a British Military Base. Cheers. It’s killing defenceless animals, hence the ban on hunting ! Thats how all this shit works mate, we have had this conversation before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 4,055 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 31 minutes ago, jukel123 said: No the great man was suggesting you inject it. Stupid boy. Stick the video up of where he’s suggesting to inject bleach clever boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 28,366 Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 Just now, WILF said: It’s killing defenceless animals, hence the ban on hunting ! Thats how all this shit works mate, we have had this conversation before. I don’t understand the anology, mate. Were, in your mind, those that decapitated a young British soldier committing an act of terrorism or simply murder ? Were those that blew up the Manchester Arena committing terrorism or simply murder ? When , in your mind is the line crossed from breaking the law into terrorism ? Palestine Action, in my mind, crossed the line when they moved from protest to attacking British Military Infrastructure. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, scotty12 said: Stick the video up of where he’s suggesting to inject bleach clever boy Lads, I’d humbly suggest that if someone is of a level of intelligence that they watch Donald Trump on the telly then go to the kitchen and inject themselves with demestos then they probably ain’t that much of a loss to humanity ! lol It’s just one less moron to feed ! lol 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 28,366 Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 Just now, WILF said: Lads, I’d humbly suggest that if someone is of a level of intelligence that they watch Donald Trump on the telly then go to the kitchen and inject themselves with demestos then they probably ain’t that much of a loss to humanity ! lol It’s just one less moron to feed ! lol “Darwin Award” Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I don’t understand the anology, mate. Were, in your mind, those that decapitated a young British soldier committing an act of terrorism or simply murder ? Were those that blew up the Manchester Arena committing terrorism or simply murder ? When , in your mind is the line crossed from breaking the law into terrorism ? Palestine Action, in my mind, crossed the line when they moved from protest to attacking British Military Infrastructure. Cheers. To me, the line is when it crosses over into murder (actual or attempted) based on ideological or political grounds. When a bloke kills his wife because she is driving him mad that’s murder, when the same bloke kills a soldier or a room full of people he don’t know based on his political or ideological ideas that’s terrorism ! When subject A attacks subject B and subject B levels him, that’s self defence ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 15 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I don’t understand the anology, mate. It’s this mate, hunting is killing an animal as quickly as possible for food or pest control. Cruelty is getting that same animal and torturing for as long as possible until it dies. We had laws for cruelty !…….but because of this ban everything all under one umbrella now you can’t hunt but you can still be cruel and that law hasn’t gone away, they just added an extra and it consumes a whole mass of people who had not the slightest intention of being cruel in the first place ! Baby and bath water mate…..always ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 28,366 Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 6 minutes ago, WILF said: To me, the line is when it crosses over into murder (actual or attempted) based on ideological or political grounds. When a bloke kills his wife because she is driving him mad that’s murder, when the same bloke kills a soldier or a room full of people he don’t know based on his political or ideological ideas that’s terrorism ! When subject A attacks subject B and subject B levels him, that’s self defence ! Not like you to deflect or be obtuse mate So, does attacking a UK Military Asset move from “criminal damage, to an “act of terrorism” ? For me it does. it doesn’t matter if you disagree, I can handle that but it worries me that you APPEAR to be condoning the acts of these people and their supporters . Im sure you’d be appalled if people were marching in London with placards saying “I support Lee Rigby’s killers” or “I support the Manchester Arena bombers” ! To me, they would be supporting terrorism, just as the people who are supporting Palestine Action are. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,618 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Not like you to deflect or be obtuse mate So, does attacking a UK Military Asset move from “criminal damage, to an “act of terrorism” ? For me it does. it doesn’t matter if you disagree, I can handle that but it worries me that you APPEAR to be condoning the acts of these people and their supporters . Im sure you’d be appalled if people were marching in London with placards saying “I support Lee Rigby’s killers” or “I support the Manchester Arena bombers” ! To me, they would be supporting terrorism, just as the people who are supporting Palestine Action are. Cheers. Well my tuppence worth....I think I can safely answer for Wilf, he does not support Palestinian Action or condone their actions. But there's attacking a military base with weapons and attacking a military base armed with spray paint. Big difference. Most people would be appalled by placards supporting Lee Rigbys killers or the Manchester bomber. But imo they are not actively supporting terrorism. They are not physically doing anything. They are expressing an opinion. It may be vile and make you want to kick their f'n heads in but they are exercising their right to freedom of speech. We have to bite on a rag and accept that surely? Edited September 23 by jukel123 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Not like you to deflect or be obtuse mate So, does attacking a UK Military Asset move from “criminal damage, to an “act of terrorism” ? For me it does. it doesn’t matter if you disagree, I can handle that but it worries me that you APPEAR to be condoning the acts of these people and their supporters . Im sure you’d be appalled if people were marching in London with placards saying “I support Lee Rigby’s killers” or “I support the Manchester Arena bombers” ! To me, they would be supporting terrorism, just as the people who are supporting Palestine Action are. Cheers. Fair enough, as I said, murder is the line for me. Everything else has a wider cost ! Jmho of course 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 11 minutes ago, jukel123 said: We have to bite on a rag and accept that surely? Yes we do, 100% mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 8,132 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 So if Iranian terrorists infiltrate Palestine action and are doing recon/ sabertage under the guise of spraying some RAF jets how does that work? Knowing that plenty of Iranians have crossed on dinghy's. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,906 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 Just now, Borr said: So if Iranian terrorists infiltrate Palestine action and are doing recon/ sabertage under the guise of spraying some RAF jets how does that work? Knowing that plenty of Iranians have crossed on dinghy's. It works at the point they commit the act or at the point counter intelligence identify a them and arrests them…..we can’t stop poor deluded Doris aged 47 painting words with a can of Dulux because that’s stops you painting words with a can of Dulux if you feel like it ! See lads, whatever you are allowing the government to do to them you are allowing the government to do to you……you may not feel strongly about Palestine but one day there may be something you do feel strongly about ! Allowing the government to be the arbiter of what you can say is lethal and we have allowed it way too much ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,889 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, Borr said: So if Iranian terrorists infiltrate Palestine action and are doing recon/ sabertage under the guise of spraying some RAF jets how does that work? Knowing that plenty of Iranians have crossed on dinghy's. Guaranteed there are iranian sleeper cells dormant in the UK,wasn't there a few caught earlier this year on suspicion of terrorist related activities?ICE has just arrested 130 Iranians feared to be sleepers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,618 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 (edited) Final thought. The Greenham Common women ' attacked' a military base by hundreds of acts of civil disobedience and petty vandalism. Many were fined, bound over, given suspended sentences and served time. They were not designated a terrorist organisation, nor should they have been. Whatever you think about their motives or beliefs, they were decent brits exercising their rights. Some broke the law and paid the price. But there was never any suggestion they were terrorists. Edited September 23 by jukel123 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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