Would you leave the uk ?

[Seagull 791]

I think a lot of people are stuck in THL bubble and are not in reality. All these evil 3rd world immigrants ruining your lives, how many of you are really affected by this, I'm certainly not, I've never been attacked by a 3rd world immigrant, I've never been robbed by a 3rd world immigrant, the UK is still a safer place to live than Canada, than New Zealand, both have higher murder rates.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,131]

That first sentence ffs 

watch yourself in Florida kidda 

[Seagull 791]

4 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

That first sentence ffs 

watch yourself in Florida kidda 

Let's deal with facts shall we?

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[Seagull 791]

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[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,131]

And ? 

your point is ?

 

[Seagull 791]

My point is what I said, the UK is still a safer place to live than either Canada or New Zealand despite the scare mongering about the 3rd world inhabitants.

[WILF 50,236]

20 minutes ago, Seagull said:

I think a lot of people are stuck in THL bubble and are not in reality. All these evil 3rd world immigrants ruining your lives, how many of you are really affected by this, I'm certainly not, I've never been attacked by a 3rd world immigrant, I've never been robbed by a 3rd world immigrant, the UK is still a safer place to live than Canada, than New Zealand, both have higher murder rates.

First and foremost, nobody mentioned immigrants.

Moving ain’t all about one thing, I’d guess like me, moving is a culmination of different things.

So, let’s take my example of Central Europe and zero inheritance tax……that’s means, if I want to leave my kids everything I have I can without the state helping themselves to half of it and my kids having to be back at square one ! 
That’s one thing……

Also, the ability to own a home without having a mortgage you won’t live to see the end of and your kids having to do the same…..that’s one more thing 

And anyone could go on, thing after thing after thing !

I think, and this is just my personal opinion, you have to say to yourself “If this wasn’t the state doing all this stuff to me and my children, if it was say just a local gangster round the corner, would it be right and would I tolerate it ?” 
I bet the answer is almost always “no” 

Having to live amongst 3rd world degradation is just another thing in a whole list of things…..immigrants don’t come into it in isolation. 

[Seagull 791]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

First and foremost, nobody mentioned immigrants.

Moving ain’t all about one thing, I’d guess like me, moving is a culmination of different things.

So, let’s take my example of Central Europe and zero inheritance tax……that’s means, if I want to leave my kids everything I have I can without the state helping themselves to half of it and my kids having to be back at square one ! 
That’s one thing……

Also, the ability to own a home without having a mortgage you won’t live to see the end of and your kids having to do the same…..that’s one more thing 

And anyone could go on, thing after thing after thing !

I think, and this is just my personal opinion, you have to say to yourself “If this wasn’t the state doing all this stuff to me and my children, if it was say just a local gangster round the corner, would it be right and would I tolerate it ?” 
I bet the answer is almost always “no” 

Having to live amongst 3rd world degradation is just another thing in a whole list of things…..immigrants don’t come into it in isolation. 

 

Yeah, central Europe is that great hence why millions moved to the West because job prospects were poor and wages were terrible, and still really are. Forget about what properties you could buy over there with the wages we are on, think about what properties you could buy if you were on the wages of their working classes. And if you happen to suffer misfortune in life, the state treats you like a pariah with very little financial or mental support, just hope you don't have any kids with severe disabilities. I've always enjoyed my time in Europe but it's another thing living there and is still behind the UK in many ways.

[Halfhound 237]

20 minutes ago, WILF said:

First and foremost, nobody mentioned immigrants.

Moving ain’t all about one thing, I’d guess like me, moving is a culmination of different things.

So, let’s take my example of Central Europe and zero inheritance tax……that’s means, if I want to leave my kids everything I have I can without the state helping themselves to half of it and my kids having to be back at square one ! 
That’s one thing……

Also, the ability to own a home without having a mortgage you won’t live to see the end of and your kids having to do the same…..that’s one more thing 

And anyone could go on, thing after thing after thing !

I think, and this is just my personal opinion, you have to say to yourself “If this wasn’t the state doing all this stuff to me and my children, if it was say just a local gangster round the corner, would it be right and would I tolerate it ?” 
I bet the answer is almost always “no” 

Having to live amongst 3rd world degradation is just another thing in a whole list of things…..immigrants don’t come into it in isolation. 

Good points Wilf but I think that most young people 20-40 just aren’t even aware of these things. Once you’ve been herded into the mortgage and the car and the holiday loan you haven’t really time to think about leaving something after you but hey you’ll look the part that’s all that matters 

[Greyman 31,726]

6 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

Good points Wilf but I think that most young people 20-40 just aren’t even aware of these things. Once you’ve been herded into the mortgage and the car and the holiday loan you haven’t really time to think about leaving something after you but hey you’ll look the part that’s all that matters 

Things like a silly electric car and a mock cobble driveway to park it on holidays in Florida just to make the shite your living seem worthwhile and your standing in the street seem better than all the other hamsters running on the same wheel ,anyone in mind lol

[WILF 50,236]

12 minutes ago, Seagull said:

 

Yeah, central Europe is that great hence why millions moved to the West because job prospects were poor and wages were terrible, and still really are. Forget about what properties you could buy over there with the wages we are on, think about what properties you could buy if you were on the wages of their working classes. And if you happen to suffer misfortune in life, the state treats you like a pariah with very little financial or mental support, just hope you don't have any kids with severe disabilities. I've always enjoyed my time in Europe but it's another thing living there and is still behind the UK in many ways.

There’s good and bad in everything, I’ve always thought if you were allowed to keep enough of your own money then the safety net is less likely to be required.

Swings and roundabouts mate, nobody is trying to convince you that you shouldn’t  be happy with a £400,000 3 bed semi and a 35 year mortgage or negligible disposable income, nobody wants to persuade you that your £50,000 car on the never never isn’t a distraction from the fact you have £100 in the bank.

Nobody wants to make you feel down that you pay more for the NHS a week than you would private and can’t get an appointment or that and army of traffic wardens is in the prowl to rinse you for the last bit of disposable income you do have left or that your going to shovel £1800 a year to the council to not collect your bin or give your kids school books or cut the grass or let you park outside your own house. 
 

If your happy with it and your happy for your kids to have the same then fair play, good for you.

Fact is, most British lads won’t be moving to a position where they have to make 15 zloti a week buy everything……they are going to be moving with a nice chunk of equity out of their house which is enough to buy another place 3 times the size outright, they are going to have a pension in Sterling which is worth a nice bit of the average weekly wage and they will have a skill that is lacking locally so they can plod along…..pressure off.

They will pay £30 and see a doctor right away and if they need a new hip they will pay £400 and it will be fixed by the end of the week. 
 

As I said mate, Stockholm syndrome…..some people can’t imagine life without their abuser. 

[WILF 50,236]

14 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

Good points Wilf but I think that most young people 20-40 just aren’t even aware of these things. Once you’ve been herded into the mortgage and the car and the holiday loan you haven’t really time to think about leaving something after you but hey you’ll look the part that’s all that matters 

I agree, we all done it, but you educate yourself as you go along don’t you mate. 

[Seagull 791]

3 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Things like a silly electric car and a mock cobble driveway to park it on holidays in Florida just to make the shite your living seem worthwhile and your standing in the street seem better than all the other hamsters running on the same wheel ,anyone in mind lol

And you think running around in a Leptospirosis ridden canoe and cleaning out your own shitter is living the good life you scruffy old moggy hunter. I'd rather not take life  advice from a self proclaimed skanky tea leaf thanks very much.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,131]

47 minutes ago, Seagull said:

My point is what I said, the UK is still a safer place to live than either Canada or New Zealand despite the scare mongering about the 3rd world inhabitants.

In not planning on moving to be murdered though ? 
 

it’s about as relevant as finding out what the time delay is like on the traffic lights , “oohhh the uk is quicker , you have 10 more seconds of your journey to work”

the facts you used are irrelevant  

[Seagull 791]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

There’s good and bad in everything, I’ve always thought if you were allowed to keep enough of your own money then the safety net is less likely to be required.

Swings and roundabouts mate, nobody is trying to convince you that you shouldn’t  be happy with a £400,000 3 bed semi and a 35 year mortgage or negligible disposable income, nobody wants to persuade you that your £50,000 car on the never never isn’t a distraction from the fact you have £100 in the bank.

Nobody wants to make you feel down that you pay more for the NHS a week than you would private and can’t get an appointment or that and army of traffic wardens is in the prowl to rinse you for the last bit of disposable income you do have left or that your going to shovel £1800 a year to the council to not collect your bin or give your kids school books or cut the grass or let you park outside your own house. 
 

If your happy with it and your happy for your kids to have the same then fair play, good for you.

Fact is, most British lads won’t be moving to a position where they have to make 15 zloti a week buy everything……they are going to be moving with a nice chunk of equity out of their house which is enough to buy another place 3 times the size outright, they are going to have a pension in Sterling which is worth a nice bit of the average weekly wage and they will have a skill that is lacking locally so they can plod along…..pressure off.

They will pay £30 and see a doctor right away and if they need a new hip they will pay £400 and it will be fixed by the end of the week. 
 

As I said mate, Stockholm syndrome…..some people can’t imagine life without their abuser. 

And yet it's still a better standard of life and with more disposable income than the places you are talking about in Europe.