Yanh1 14 Posted Wednesday at 14:10 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 14:10 25 minutes ago, dai dogs said: I can only speak for 2 first cross Bull Deerhounds they didn’t have enough drive when the going got tough also hunting instinct was non existent Suprised at that mate. Thought the bull would certainly have the drive Quote Link to post
dai dogs 1,955 Posted Wednesday at 14:16 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 14:16 4 minutes ago, Yanh1 said: Suprised at that mate. Thought the bull would certainly have the drive Add Greyhound blood then it all changes 2 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted Wednesday at 20:05 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 20:05 Not the best photo's I've got of big Sid. Line bred 1/2 cross bull grey out of Pye. To a deerhound/grey that was mustard on real big gear. Sid, was one of my biggest mistakes/ regrets. 31" at the shoulder he took everything I put infront if him RHFD. My old lamping mate, hated him, for Sid made everything look easy. "that dog takes the fun out of everything" he would often say.... I knew I had something special with Sid, but it was just different times. He was lightening fast, superb in the turn for his size, and as a party piece' would 'hop over' a gate with a fox in his gob like it was a rabbit. He literally would destroy foxes..! His only issue, which was a massive issue for me, was because I like my dogs to come back almost as fast as they go out. Especially when the land is red hot... And Sid never got that memo... He was the penultimate plodder, if he missed, it took him an age to come back. And for so many nights he made me sick when he disappeared out the beam and I'd be stood roadside, a bag of nerves awaiting his return. I sprung him from Leigh dogs home, Walsall and Oxford animal rescue to name but three... He became a real liability. Sadly, me and big Sid had to part ways, and the new bloke at the end of the slip, though a very experienced dogman and mate of mine, couldn't work out why I'd give such a dog away... He killed everything he put him on. Especially big stuff. And when he would tell me tales of what he took, and how Sid took it, I could only revert back to the hours I put in getting that pup right... But all things come to and end, and one night poor old Sid 'plodded' infront of a motor, after missing his quarry, on a single track road, on a large local aerodrome. He wa twatted by that car, within 12 months of me giving him away... I suppose it was all just a matter of time.... Damn shame, his attitude to life ( at that time) near killed me, but his attitude to the chase was spectacular... Sid, you big dozy cnut, I'll never forget you.... Quote Link to post
Reg478728 294 Posted Wednesday at 20:11 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 20:11 3 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: Not the best photo's I've got of big Sid. Line bred 1/2 cross bull grey out of Pye. To a deerhound/grey that was mustard on real big gear. Sid, was one of my biggest mistakes/ regrets. 31" at the shoulder he took everything I put infront if him. My old lamping mate, hated him, for Sid made everything look easy. "that dog takes the fun out of everything" he would often say.... I knew I had something special with Sid, but it was just different times. He was lightening fast, superbe in the turn, and as a party piece' would 'hop over' a gate with a fox in his gob like it was a rabbit. He would destroy foxes..! His only issue, which was a massive issue for me, was, because I like my dogs to come back almost as fast as they go out. Especially when the land is red hot... And with Sid, he never got that memo... He was the penultimate plodder, if he missed, it took him an age to come back. And so many nights he made me sick, when he disappeared out the beam and I'd be stood roadside, a bag of nerves awaiting his return. I sprung him from Leigh dogs home, Walsall and Oxford animal rescue to name but three... He became a liability. Sadly, me and big Sid had to part ways, and the new bloke at the end of the slip, though a very experienced dogman and mate of mine, couldn't work out why I'd give such a dog away... He killed everything he put him on. Especially big stuff. But all things come to and end, and poor old Sid plodded infront of the one motor, on a single track road, on a large local aerodrome. Within 12 months of me giving him away... Damn shame, his attitude to life ( at that time) near killed me, but his attitude to the chase was spectacular... Sid, you big dozy cnut, I'll never forget you.... Gonna be honest with you mate that was a brilliant read and I’ve got similar with my dog i messed up with him and it’s all my fault mate after having a break from dogs I rushed him into stuff and basically should of leaving him to mature mines a bugger for hunting up after missing stuff so much so I had to get gps trackers but I will say he’s got better now with age at four but he’s a cracking pet my lad but it is what it is but again mate cracking read that and looked a hell of a dog mate 1 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted Wednesday at 20:16 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 20:16 3 minutes ago, Reg478728 said: Gonna be honest with you mate that was a brilliant read and I’ve got similar with my dog i messed up with him and it’s all my fault mate after having a break from dogs I rushed him into stuff and basically should of leaving him to mature mines a bugger for hunting up after missing stuff so much so I had to get gps trackers but I will say he’s got better now with age at four but he’s a cracking pet my lad but it is what it is but again mate cracking read that and looked a hell of a dog mate Cheers Reg, that tale was long before gps trackers. If they'd of been around I'd bet me an Sid would never have parted... Quote Link to post
Reg478728 294 Posted Wednesday at 20:34 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 20:34 14 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: Cheers Reg, that tale was long before gps trackers. If they'd of been around I'd bet me an Sid would never have parted... I can tell by the photos mate but a cracking dog all the same mate alot of the older lot down here had deerhound crosses and some stayed with em some went over to bull crosses I like em to be honest oddly enough I always got invited to a local shoot on the farm I live next with with my deerhound cross one time I took the saluki bull grey the land owner walked up and said I wonder where the hares have gone didn’t get invited back 2 Quote Link to post
Yanh1 14 Posted Wednesday at 20:58 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 20:58 53 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: Not the best photo's I've got of big Sid. Line bred 1/2 cross bull grey out of Pye. To a deerhound/grey that was mustard on real big gear. Sid, was one of my biggest mistakes/ regrets. 31" at the shoulder he took everything I put infront if him RHFD. My old lamping mate, hated him, for Sid made everything look easy. "that dog takes the fun out of everything" he would often say.... I knew I had something special with Sid, but it was just different times. He was lightening fast, superb in the turn for his size, and as a party piece' would 'hop over' a gate with a fox in his gob like it was a rabbit. He literally would destroy foxes..! His only issue, which was a massive issue for me, was because I like my dogs to come back almost as fast as they go out. Especially when the land is red hot... And Sid never got that memo... He was the penultimate plodder, if he missed, it took him an age to come back. And for so many nights he made me sick when he disappeared out the beam and I'd be stood roadside, a bag of nerves awaiting his return. I sprung him from Leigh dogs home, Walsall and Oxford animal rescue to name but three... He became a real liability. Sadly, me and big Sid had to part ways, and the new bloke at the end of the slip, though a very experienced dogman and mate of mine, couldn't work out why I'd give such a dog away... He killed everything he put him on. Especially big stuff. And when he would tell me tales of what he took, and how Sid took it, I could only revert back to the hours I put in getting that pup right... But all things come to and end, and one night poor old Sid 'plodded' infront of a motor, after missing his quarry, on a single track road, on a large local aerodrome. He wa twatted by that car, within 12 months of me giving him away... I suppose it was all just a matter of time.... Damn shame, his attitude to life ( at that time) near killed me, but his attitude to the chase was spectacular... Sid, you big dozy cnut, I'll never forget you.... brilliant read mate Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,497 Posted Wednesday at 21:38 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 21:38 1 hour ago, Bosun11 said: Not the best photo's I've got of big Sid. Line bred 1/2 cross bull grey out of Pye. To a deerhound/grey that was mustard on real big gear. Sid, was one of my biggest mistakes/ regrets. 31" at the shoulder he took everything I put infront if him RHFD. My old lamping mate, hated him, for Sid made everything look easy. "that dog takes the fun out of everything" he would often say.... I knew I had something special with Sid, but it was just different times. He was lightening fast, superb in the turn for his size, and as a party piece' would 'hop over' a gate with a fox in his gob like it was a rabbit. He literally would destroy foxes..! His only issue, which was a massive issue for me, was because I like my dogs to come back almost as fast as they go out. Especially when the land is red hot... And Sid never got that memo... He was the penultimate plodder, if he missed, it took him an age to come back. And for so many nights he made me sick when he disappeared out the beam and I'd be stood roadside, a bag of nerves awaiting his return. I sprung him from Leigh dogs home, Walsall and Oxford animal rescue to name but three... He became a real liability. Sadly, me and big Sid had to part ways, and the new bloke at the end of the slip, though a very experienced dogman and mate of mine, couldn't work out why I'd give such a dog away... He killed everything he put him on. Especially big stuff. And when he would tell me tales of what he took, and how Sid took it, I could only revert back to the hours I put in getting that pup right... But all things come to and end, and one night poor old Sid 'plodded' infront of a motor, after missing his quarry, on a single track road, on a large local aerodrome. He wa twatted by that car, within 12 months of me giving him away... I suppose it was all just a matter of time.... Damn shame, his attitude to life ( at that time) near killed me, but his attitude to the chase was spectacular... Sid, you big dozy cnut, I'll never forget you.... good read mate and a lot resonated with me 2 Quote Link to post
The drover 1,021 Posted Thursday at 07:02 Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:02 You lads with the deerhound crosses really should get your heads together. Get breeding and sort the breed out . Select wisely and tight .. the coursing bitch chance was as good as owt out there I'm told and had a percentage of deerhound in her . 2 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 27,336 Posted Thursday at 07:57 Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:57 53 minutes ago, The drover said: You lads with the deerhound crosses really should get your heads together. Get breeding and sort the breed out . Select wisely and tight .. the coursing bitch chance was as good as owt out there I'm told and had a percentage of deerhound in her . And end up like the Daywalkers ? Err, no thanks ! LOL ! Cheers. 1 1 Quote Link to post
The drover 1,021 Posted Thursday at 10:35 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:35 2 hours ago, chartpolski said: And end up like the Daywalkers ? Err, no thanks ! LOL ! Cheers. Chart . It certainly wouldn't be detrimental to the breed . Unlike the typical show type deerhounds parading around the rings and for the most part being idle in winter . You lads who work good honest crosses and pures have it in your own hands Quote Link to post
chartpolski 27,336 Posted Thursday at 10:42 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:42 3 minutes ago, The drover said: Chart . It certainly wouldn't be detrimental to the breed . Unlike the typical show type deerhounds parading around the rings and for the most part being idle in winter . You lads who work good honest crosses and pures have it in your own hands I’m just joking mate ! Working deerhound blood is hard to find now but there’s still some about if you do your homework. Ive noticed at the few shows I’ve been to this year that the deerhound types are making a comeback….wether they are worked or not is a different matter. Cheers. Quote Link to post
The drover 1,021 Posted Thursday at 10:47 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:47 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m just joking mate ! Working deerhound blood is hard to find now but there’s still some about if you do your homework. Ive noticed at the few shows I’ve been to this year that the deerhound types are making a comeback….wether they are worked or not is a different matter. Cheers. plenty old working stuff way back in mine charts . Think it toughens the out and out coursing dogs imho Quote Link to post
mC HULL 15,497 Posted Thursday at 10:57 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:57 6 minutes ago, The drover said: plenty old working stuff way back in mine charts . Think it toughens the out and out coursing dogs imho It doesn't mate I've never had a weak one yet out saluki bred is tough alot tougher than deerhound crosses I'd say ? You lads like hard runners like grey and whip in with your dogs I can see deer hound toughening them up but saluki saturated not so much Quote Link to post
chartpolski 27,336 Posted Thursday at 10:58 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:58 4 minutes ago, The drover said: plenty old working stuff way back in mine charts . Think it toughens the out and out coursing dogs imho Around this area especially Ashington/Bedlington , where both Docherty and Sankey live, deerhound types were the main types for many years and took plenty of hare and roe, a lot of it on rough ground . Some famous dogs any old timer from the area may remember such as “Thor” and “ The Widdrington Train. Still a few about , and when I go to the local whippet tracks my dogs get a lot of attention from the old timers. Cheers. Quote Link to post
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