BobDown 1,163 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Scatty things them malis , old boy I now keeps a good line of Dutch herders he says there same dog way back . Personally I’d keep a Dutch over Mali any day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 21 minutes ago, downsouth said: Do all what as good as them?If you mean sprint 100yds and fly through the air,leap through burning hoops etc.That doesn't equate to anything in real life.In fact when I was training I wouldn't even do long sends not that my old girl would have been fussed about chasing someone down anyway.My thing was if someone is running away my dog doesn't need to chase and bite them.And if it does I'm definitely in a world of shit.The point off a pp or guard dog is it should be right next to its owner protecting them or guarding its property not charging off down a field coz someone's waving their arm in the air and cracking a whip I imagine they need to do more than that when doing military service, have you seen them in Israel? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 21 minutes ago, downsouth said: Do all what as good as them?If you mean sprint 100yds and fly through the air,leap through burning hoops etc.That doesn't equate to anything in real life.In fact when I was training I wouldn't even do long sends not that my old girl would have been fussed about chasing someone down anyway.My thing was if someone is running away my dog doesn't need to chase and bite them.And if it does I'm definitely in a world of shit.The point off a pp or guard dog is it should be right next to its owner protecting them or guarding its property not charging off down a field coz someone's waving their arm in the air and cracking a whip I imagine they need to do more than that when doing military service, have you seen them in Israel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,277 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Pardus said: I imagine they need to do more than that when doing military service, have you seen them in Israel? Funnily enough I've never been to Israel,Especially during wartime 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, downsouth said: Funnily enough I've never been to Israel,Especially during wartime There's been videos on the web of their dogs working for years, I don't think many breeds would be capable of doing what they can do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,277 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 33 minutes ago, Pardus said: There's been videos on the web of their dogs working for years, I don't think many breeds would be capable of doing what they can do. Fair enough but like I origionally said they're useless for 90%of people.What they're doing in war zones isn't anything like they're ever gunna be doing for anyone in day to day life over here.In the military in a conflict situation they are going to be working with they're handler all day long.I know a fella who ran the met police K9 dept and breeding program for 30years and still gives seminars to different police forces all over the world and even he said malis were no good to the met police as they just didn't get enough stimulation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,485 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 42 minutes ago, Pardus said: There's been videos on the web of their dogs working for years, I don't think many breeds would be capable of doing what they can do. there just non stop pacing banging into things like a bull in a china shop bite everyone in site if given a chance what goods a dog like it really ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 14 minutes ago, mC HULL said: there just non stop pacing banging into things like a bull in a china shop bite everyone in site if given a chance what goods a dog like it really ? Very useful if that's it's job. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,485 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Pardus said: Very useful if that's it's job. Lol none stop they remind me a marcus imagine serious adhd always in 3rd gear lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,277 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 11 hours ago, Pardus said: Very useful if that's it's job. Lol How many people are gunna use them to their full potential though?Unless they're being used in the military or by somebody who's training all week and competing at a high level so the dogs are getting the constant stimulation that they need then they just become a nightmare and a liability.Like I said the guy I know well who ran the met police dog dept and breeding program said they tried them and found them unsuitable as they spend a big part of any shift in the back of a vehicle where they would spend their time spinning in circles barking at every noise.Seen lads get them for security work and regret it as a lap round a building site once an hour on lead weren't enough and they definitely ain't no good as a guard dog round the home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,277 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Probably the best I've seen.The young lad got him from the dogs home he worked in as a stray when he was about 3 or 4 years old.Kept him indoors with cats and multiple other dogs.Dog was 100%stable round people and strange dogs and could switch on and back off in an instant when asked to.Took to everything that he was shown like a duck to water.Even after the lads mum accidentally let the dog out one day and he got picked up by the old bill and the lad had to agree to have his bollocks chopped he still went on to win top honours in pretty much every working trial event put on in this country.Ive often wondered what the dog could have done in the hands of a top trainer 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,286 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Worked on a MOD base where one of these dogs had 5 confirmed kills...f**k wearing a turban round that dog 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
white van man 3,474 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 I’ve worked a couple of malis for my old man. Mainly search and cadaver but never PP. The dogs I was with were fairly soft and driven for the type of work. They constantly needed stimulating between searches with retrieves etc. All the other breeds including the herders seemed to just chill with their handlers. Great dogs to see in action but I’d never have time for one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
white van man 3,474 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 46 minutes ago, TOMO said: Worked on a MOD base where one of these dogs had 5 confirmed kills...f**k wearing a turban round that dog Some of them dogs have nicknames when deployed on operations Tomo. Once off the lead they are lethal. Brave, pure mentalists or or maybe a bit of both! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxo 532 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, downsouth said: Probably the best I've seen.The young lad got him from the dogs home he worked in as a stray when he was about 3 or 4 years old.Kept him indoors with cats and multiple other dogs.Dog was 100%stable round people and strange dogs and could switch on and back off in an instant when asked to.Took to everything that he was shown like a duck to water.Even after the lads mum accidentally let the dog out one day and he got picked up by the old bill and the lad had to agree to have his bollocks chopped he still went on to win top honours in pretty much every working trial event put on in this country.Ive often wondered what the dog could have done in the hands of a top trainer Looks like a big Reid bred dog, belter. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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