Enough of these coursing dogs

[chartpolski 27,231]

5 minutes ago, Gilbey said:

To me Fell hounds are used in fell packs to hunt.

And "Trailhounds" are used in "hound trailing" 

People will have different terms in different areas. I know some of the Cumbrian packs are known as “fell packs” but are still foxhounds.

One of my local packs has joint meets sometimes with the Ullswater on the Northumberland fells;

the hounds I’ll be watching at Steelrigg are known as both “Fell hounds” and “Trailhounds”. They don’t hunt fox, they race and look finer built than traditional foxhounds.

Cheers

 

[gunter 1,496]

32 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I was hunting in Australia with the Barwon Hunt and they use a mixed pack of what they call English Foxhounds and Irish Beagles;

The Black and Tan ones are the Irish  beagles, nothing  like what we call beagles.

I know in Cumbrian the Fell hound is used for racing and looks much racier than a foxhound, as I said , I’ll try and get some pictures.

Cheers.

 

There like the kerry beagle them black and tans ... that's what I'm saying foxhounds up in openground wouldn't be as quick on there feet as a  fell hound they were made to hunt the fell tops open ground over rocks  I've owned fell hounds give one to a man in Wigan good 7 8 years ago maybe more  years ago she was hunting marking  

[gunter 1,496]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

People will have different terms in different areas. I know some of the Cumbrian packs are known as “fell packs” but are still foxhounds.

One of my local packs has joint meets sometimes with the Ullswater on the Northumberland fells;

the hounds I’ll be watching at Steelrigg are known as both “Fell hounds” and “Trailhounds”. They don’t hunt fox, they race and look finer built than traditional foxhounds.

Cheers

 

Yes call them what you want there drag hounds to any man that hunts hounds hit the nail on the head they don't hunt charts fell hound to me is a hound bred to hunt the fells a fast light footed hound that could that could hold a line well and hunt 

[chartpolski 27,231]

At the Percy Hunt with my hairy hounds ! LOL !

Introducing a young deer/grey to the Morpeth Hunt hounds ;

Cheers.

 

 

 

[gunter 1,496]

8 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

At the Percy Hunt with my hairy hounds ! LOL !

Introducing a young deer/grey to the Morpeth Hunt hounds ;

Cheers.

 

 

 

Rangey dogs what height are they 

[chartpolski 27,231]

5 minutes ago, gunter said:

Rangey dogs what height are they 

The light brindle was 23” and the other one was 29 1/2 “

The pup levelled out at 28 1/2”

Cheers.

[gunter 1,496]

8 hours ago, chartpolski said:

The light brindle was 23” and the other one was 29 1/2 “

The pup levelled out at 28 1/2”

Cheers.

Big do you use them for a bit of everything 

[chartpolski 27,231]

37 minutes ago, gunter said:

Big do you use them for a bit of everything 

Yeah, I’ll have a go at most things, specialised at nothing.

Cheers.

[gunter 1,496]

Best way I like a lurcher will have a go at anything opens up your hunting 

[Bosun11 537]

If anyone needs hoknow a bit more about Trail/Fell Hounds there is a good Facebook page with loads of information and video clips

[gunter 1,496]

18 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

If anyone needs hoknow a bit more about Trail/Fell Hounds there is a good Facebook page with loads of information and video clips

That's like a  working lurcher and a dog you run at a flapping track there world's apart them things there just follow a fake laid scent that goes one way  proably babble at anything bred for just speed not the hunt I think it's the biggest load of balls going  fell hounds bred to hunt the fell trail hounds bred to race a laid drag that a springer could follow 

[chartpolski 27,231]

7 minutes ago, gunter said:

That's like a  working lurcher and a dog you run at a flapping track there world's apart them things there just follow a fake laid scent that goes one way  proably babble at anything bred for just speed not the hunt I think it's the biggest load of balls going  fell hounds bred to hunt the fell trail hounds bred to race a laid drag that a springer could follow 

That’s what I’ve been saying all along !

The trail is laid in a circular route around the fell, then when the hounds are nearing the finish the owners holler and wave towels and such and the hounds come racing in.

Cheers.

[Bosun11 537]

2 minutes ago, gunter said:

That's like a  working lurcher and a dog you run at a flapping track there world's apart them things there just follow a fake laid scent that goes one way  proably babble at anything bred for just speed not the hunt I think it's the biggest load of balls going  fell hounds bred to hunt the fell trail hounds bred to race a laid drag that a springer could follow 

Your right Gunter, world's apart, BUT for many, me included, it really is a good watch.

Maurice Bell, the old Wensleydale huntsman, had hound racing at his 'day in the dales' shows. I used to love watching the hounds go out, then see them moving as swift white specks over the top of the fells,  whilst your also watching the dogs ringside. And finally the race down, to the rattle of buckets. It really was a sight.

Many of the owners/racers are hunt supporters, and walk puppies for their local hunt, but kennel and race their own trail hounds as a similar, but separate entity.

I've been hunting with the fell packs, since the early 80's, and I love that. But there's nowt wrong with a bit of hound trailing, it's great sport in the summer months.

[chartpolski 27,231]

5 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

Your right Gunter, world's apart, BUT for many, me included, it really is a good watch.

Maurice Bell, the old Wensleydale huntsman, had hound racing at his 'day in the dales' shows. I used to love watching the hounds go out, then see them moving as swift white specks over the top of the fells,  whilst your also watching the dogs ringside. And finally the race down, to the rattle of buckets. It really was a sight.

Many of the owners/racers are hunt supporters, and walk puppies for their local hunt, but kennel and race their own trail hounds as a similar, but separate entity.

I've been hunting with the fell packs, since the early 80's, and I love that. But there's nowt wrong with a bit of hound trailing, it's great sport in the summer months.

That’s exactly how I see it. People with binoculars watching the race unfold across the fell tops then the mad dash of the run in.

Very fit hounds and people who can condition a dog.

Theres plenty of people show and race lurchers whose dogs have never seen a rabbit.

It has no bearing on my type of lurcher work, but is a good day out in the summer months.

Cheers.

[gunter 1,496]

3 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

Your right Gunter, world's apart, BUT for many, me included, it really is a good watch.

Maurice Bell, the old Wensleydale huntsman, had hound racing at his 'day in the dales' shows. I used to love watching the hounds go out, then see them moving as swift white specks over the top of the fells,  whilst your also watching the dogs ringside. And finally the race down, to the rattle of buckets. It really was a sight.

Many of the owners/racers are hunt supporters, and walk puppies for their local hunt, but kennel and race their own trail hounds as a similar, but separate entity.

I've been hunting with the fell packs, since the early 80's, and I love that. But there's nowt wrong with a bit of hound trailing, it's great sport in the summer months.

I just don't see the point in it tbh if you have a pack of hounds last thing I want them doing is hunting anything bar a fox or out in depths of summer chasing a laid scent rather get the bike out bring them round the road honestly it's like how I say lurcher racing most of them wouldn't of been out in the field or caught a rabbit there's no sport in it to me chasing a bag or chasing scent up the field does nothing for men that keep working dogs and the people at them do you think there any different from Joe public and care if you could hunt or not because they don't there happy chasing a bag or a fake scent up the field