downsouth 8,163 Posted Tuesday at 19:30 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 19:30 Anyone got any experience or know much about the Vauxhall Vivaros from around 17 throught to 20plates?I used to love a Vauxhall diesel years ago but aint got a clue about the later ones.Its time to get rid of my pathfinder as its 11years old now and although it's always been serviced religiously it's got a few miles on it now and although it does everything I want I dont really need a 2.5 4x4.I need something I can chuck all my tools in the back.Get one of my scooters in if needs must.Be a bit higher than an estate as the lanes round here are shit and I wrecked my last estate motor Audi A6 s line.And also have rear seats.Ive been looking at the vivaro crew cabs as they're a bit smaller in than the origional vivaros and seem to tick the boxes.I do like the vw transporters and the merc vitos but they're holding ridiculous money.20k for a 6/7 year old van but would like to know a bit more about the newer Vauxhalls ie reliability or known faults. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,718 Posted Tuesday at 21:04 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 21:04 At that age it's just same as a Renault trafic. 19 onwards it's same as a Peugeot expert / Citroen dispatch Nothing vauxhall about them apart from the badge 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,874 Posted Tuesday at 22:43 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 22:43 my brother has a newish vivaro van with low miles on it, when it`s running nice it`s good, but he`s had some sensors go on it already....not something i would be happy about on a low millage newish van....and it`s not cheap to put the sensors right....thing is, you tend to think that buying a newer van should last you a good few years, but, there is so much crap on new vehicles these day (sensors, computers, catalytic, etc etc..) that they go sooner rather than later.....i use to have the older Vauxhall movano vans which i never had problems with, very reliable, i use to run up to London every day and never let me down, if it was me....i would be looking for an older van that`s not got all the crap on them... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,163 Posted Wednesday at 05:20 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:20 8 hours ago, Chid said: At that age it's just same as a Renault trafic. 19 onwards it's same as a Peugeot expert / Citroen dispatch Nothing vauxhall about them apart from the badge Ok,But do you know if they are any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,718 Posted Wednesday at 06:23 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:23 1 hour ago, downsouth said: Ok,But do you know if they are any good? Plenty of older model ones still going strong with plenty miles on them . Newer ones ain't just as reliable seen a few with engines gone ect Though like everything keep things well maintained and looked after and they should last . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,096 Posted Wednesday at 06:35 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:35 9 hours ago, Chid said: At that age it's just same as a Renault trafic. 19 onwards it's same as a Peugeot expert / Citroen dispatch Nothing vauxhall about them apart from the badge Did they change engine from Renault to Citroen ? I was under the impression all those vans (Vauxhall, Nissan, Renault) used the Renault engine ?? And I believe the newer Citroens/Peugeot use a wet belt now ? Is that correct ? I wouldn’t touch anything with a wet belt with a barge pole myself. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,718 Posted Wednesday at 06:46 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:46 7 minutes ago, WILF said: Did they change engine from Renault to Citroen ? I was under the impression all those vans (Vauxhall, Nissan, Renault) used the Renault engine ?? And I believe the newer Citroens/Peugeot use a wet belt now ? Is that correct ? I wouldn’t touch anything with a wet belt with a barge pole myself. Older ones were Renault.. 19 onwards are ford or PSA engines. Some people say Wet belts are ok if serviced right and using the correct oil but Im still undecided.. though ford, PSA group and VW are all using them . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 30,709 Posted Wednesday at 07:02 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:02 Absolute pile of shite stay well away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,096 Posted Wednesday at 07:04 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:04 13 minutes ago, Chid said: Older ones were Renault.. 19 onwards are ford or PSA engines. Some people say Wet belts are ok if serviced right and using the correct oil but Im still undecided.. though ford, PSA group and VW are all using them . What is it to get a wet belt service ? £800-1200 ?…..and you HAVE to service them very regular or it’s an engine you’ve gone and done. Rangers the same from what I can make out ? Can’t help but conclude they are building things to break now days…..older is better in many regards imho. Just my uneducated take on it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 17,367 Posted Wednesday at 07:10 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:10 19 minutes ago, Chid said: Older ones were Renault.. 19 onwards are ford or PSA engines. Some people say Wet belts are ok if serviced right and using the correct oil but Im still undecided.. though ford, PSA group and VW are all using them . I’ve seen a lot of wet belt failures, at least with a chain you get a warning, with the wet belt they just strip teeth, all the manufacturers are recommending you only use their oil because too many people are using the wrong oil, even garages servicing them, I would stay away from a wet belt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,096 Posted Wednesday at 07:20 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:20 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Stavross said: I’ve seen a lot of wet belt failures, at least with a chain you get a warning, with the wet belt they just strip teeth, all the manufacturers are recommending you only use their oil because too many people are using the wrong oil, even garages servicing them, I would stay away from a wet belt The debris as the belts deteriorate block the oil strainer thing as well from what I have seen ? Edited Wednesday at 07:21 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 17,367 Posted Wednesday at 07:37 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:37 14 minutes ago, WILF said: The debris as the belts deteriorate block the oil strainer thing as well from what I have seen ? Yeah, the belt breaks down and blocks the strainer, starving the top end of oil, my mate is seeing a couple a month in his garage, they are charging engines, no rebuilds, very expensive when they go wrong 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,163 Posted Wednesday at 11:04 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:04 So what mid size vans aint using wet belts these days?I know with my pathfinder they were prone to snapping chains so as soon as I bought it I paid a grand and had a duplex chain conversion.I knew the Fords were best given a swerve because of the wet belts but didn't know other manufacturers were using them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Igz 1,596 Posted Wednesday at 11:06 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:06 I'd just find myself a transit just before the wet belt think they will go up to a 16 plate. Can go wrong with a transit . Solid vans Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,163 Posted Wednesday at 11:18 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:18 10 minutes ago, Igz said: I'd just find myself a transit just before the wet belt think they will go up to a 16 plate. Can go wrong with a transit . Solid vans I dont want anything that old otherwise I'd just stick with what I have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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