Plane Crash

[mackem 29,290]

Lone Survivor (no,not Marcus luttrell) walks from the wreckage.

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12K likes, 94 comments - timesofindia on June 12, 2025: "#Ahmedabad Police...

 

[chartpolski 26,470]

1 hour ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Pilot error? No flaps or engine lost thrust

Hi Len, I’m loathe to blame pilot error yet as there isn’t enough information available, that will come when the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder ( the black boxes), have been analysed.

What I see, and it is just my opinion on the very little information and videos available, is that the aircraft was struggling to gain altitude, possibly due to lack of thrust, and the crew attempted to increase altitude by increasing the “angle of attack” and , because of the lack of thrust, exceeded the angle caused the aircraft to “stall”.

This has nothing to do with engines stalling , as most people think; it when the “angle of attack” exceeds the limits of the wings giving “lift” and the aircraft then drops like a stone.

At 30,000 feet this isn’t a great problem, the crew can adjust the angle and increase the thrust and rectify the flight path…. at 600 feet and a possible restriction of thrust this is catastrophic.

The videos available seem to bear out low altitude stall.

What caused it, I don’t know, but I’d guess from reports that the pilot reported lack of thrust  in his mayday call, it was a situation that they couldn’t overcome.

As I said, this is just conjecture from me, I could be completely wrong.

Cheers.

[Lenmcharristar 10,189]

50 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Hi Len, I’m loathe to blame pilot error yet as there isn’t enough information available, that will come when the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder ( the black boxes), have been analysed.

What I see, and it is just my opinion on the very little information and videos available, is that the aircraft was struggling to gain altitude, possibly due to lack of thrust, and the crew attempted to increase altitude by increasing the “angle of attack” and , because of the lack of thrust, exceeded the angle caused the aircraft to “stall”.

This has nothing to do with engines stalling , as most people think; it when the “angle of attack” exceeds the limits of the wings giving “lift” and the aircraft then drops like a stone.

At 30,000 feet this isn’t a great problem, the crew can adjust the angle and increase the thrust and rectify the flight path…. at 600 feet and a possible restriction of thrust this is catastrophic.

The videos available seem to bear out low altitude stall.

What caused it, I don’t know, but I’d guess from reports that the pilot reported lack of thrust  in his mayday call, it was a situation that they couldn’t overcome.

As I said, this is just conjecture from me, I could be completely wrong.

Cheers.

Yeah i seen that lack of thrust, maybe he had passed the point of no return due to runway speed and had to fully commit to take off with limited thrust, but us mere mortals on here can only speculate, it almost looked like he went into flare just before crashing, prob instinct just to pull up from the danger he seen coming at him

[mitre 176]

Only one has survived the crash they say he is British they are looking in to the black box to try and figure what happened as it was a nine hour flight from the place in India to Gatwick 

[WILF 49,018]

Mystery solved !

[chartpolski 26,470]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

Mystery solved !

You’ve got a f****d up sense of humour Wilfy lad ! LOL !

[WILF 49,018]

9 hours ago, iworkwhippets said:

Over 400 people could be dead,  but from you ,  NOT FLYING AGAIN, you ignorant inhuman spunk bubble,    from me, hope all is well 

Let have it right, they were on their way here….let assume they ain’t coming for 2 weeks in Skegness and then flying home again huh ?

So that means they are coming to stay, my country is decimated with these people and I for one feel absolutely nothing that another 400 didn’t manage to make it.

Personally, I have no more sympathy to give as I watch Europe die ! 

[Pardus 1,261]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Let have it right, they were on their way here….let assume they ain’t coming for 2 weeks in Skegness and then flying home again huh ?

So that means they are coming to stay, my country is decimated with these people and I for one feel absolutely nothing that another 400 didn’t manage to make it.

Personally, I have no more sympathy to give as I watch Europe die ! 

We get it mate, you detest immigrants from India, Pakistan, Syria, Africa, wherever, but sometimes if you ain't got nothing nice to say it's best not to say anything at all. 

We can all have a laugh but deep down we know you feel sorry for these poor people. 

[low plains drifter 11,005]

6 hours ago, jok said:

He sure looks British! Jok.

To quote old Al aka the bare knuckle champ

As we approached the Tyne tunnel crammed in the back of the fiesta van, like a brace of involuntary contortionists 

They'll think we're fuckun darkies with these sun tans we've got

Circa the summer of 2000/1

[WILF 49,018]

24 minutes ago, Pardus said:

We get it mate, you detest immigrants from India, Pakistan, Syria, Africa, wherever, but sometimes if you ain't got nothing nice to say it's best not to say anything at all. 

We can all have a laugh but deep down we know you feel sorry for these poor people. 

I feel sorry for all tragedy, but in this instance it was a benefit for Europe….its shouldn’t be that way, but it is !

[Pardus 1,261]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

I feel sorry for all tragedy, but in this instance it was a benefit for Europe….its shouldn’t be that way, but it is !

Good one lol, be careful what you celebrate mate, karma is evil lol.

[chartpolski 26,470]

Pilots last communication with Air Traffic Control just released; 

“ May Day…lost thrust , unable to climb”.

Seems to confirm my thinking that the aircraft stalled, the video seems to confirm this, but I’ll wait until the data recorders are studied.

Cheers.

[Pardus 1,261]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Pilots last communication with Air Traffic Control just released; 

“ May Day…lost thrust , unable to climb”.

Seems to confirm my thinking that the aircraft stalled, the video seems to confirm this, but I’ll wait until the data recorders are studied.

Cheers.

Just seen a professional pilot comment, either both engines failed or none likely did according to him, perhaps crew error.

[Pardus 1,261]

Just horrible, RIP little ones.

 

[Daniel cain 47,684]

1 hour ago, Pardus said:

We get it mate, you detest immigrants from India, Pakistan, Syria, Africa, wherever, but sometimes if you ain't got nothing nice to say it's best not to say anything at all. 

We can all have a laugh but deep down we know you feel sorry for these poor people. 

Come On,Give over will you....

How many have you invited into your home?

Would you trust them , with your nearest and dearest? Honest question???

Would you f**k....anyone with a little bit of something about them...can see they are of no benefit to the British public,our economy,our society as a whole...they are parasites,the sort that suck the life out of their hosts....I will sleep soundly in my bed tonight...400 less this week,to add to the burden