Has musk turned on trump?

[Lenmcharristar 10,235]

Well lads ive seen musk posting about the big beautiful bill and not in a good way, hes gunning for tge ones who voted for it, he posted on his platform X, well scotty what happens now?

[Pardus 1,609]

It was only a matter of time wasn't it, the love affair is falling apart.

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25 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well lads ive seen musk posting about the big beautiful bill and not in a good way, hes gunning for tge ones who voted for it, he posted on his platform X, well scotty what happens now?

All pantomime mate musk, jd Vance etc are all deep state along with a lot more mate in his party everyone thought it was just democrats that were the bad ones but it’s both parties knee deep in it. 
 

Everything what’s happening just now is exposing the corruption to the public first hand 
 

 

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7 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

All pantomime mate musk, jd Vance etc are all deep state along with a lot more mate in his party everyone thought it was just democrats that were the bad ones but it’s both parties knee deep in it. 
 

Everything what’s happening just now is exposing the corruption to the public first hand 
 

 

You rekon vance and musk is deep state? I see him as a odd ball genius, but didnt think he was deep state

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32 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

You rekon vance and musk is deep state? I see him as a odd ball genius, but didnt think he was deep state

No doupt musk is a level above everybody brain wise. But I always wondered what level of genius he was actually . I know the rockets and electric cars , but I always assumed all the real cutting edge stuff he does was majorly done by the people he employs 

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7 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well lads ive seen musk posting about the big beautiful bill and not in a good way, hes gunning for tge ones who voted for it, he posted on his platform X, well scotty what happens now?

Well potty Scotty wi nowt up toppy, who reckons world war three is about  to break out , has in light of that, bred a litter of puppies, whom may i add sits on his botty, most of the day,spouting crappy, has given another silly bugger   who sits on his botty most of the day,   eh,wait for it,    ,. Yes a PUP.

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3 hours ago, iworkwhippets said:

Well potty Scotty wi nowt up toppy, who reckons world war three is about  to break out , has in light of that, bred a litter of puppies, whom may i add sits on his botty, most of the day,spouting crappy, has given another silly bugger   who sits on his botty most of the day,   eh,wait for it,    ,. Yes a PUP.

Uncle Joe I just bred them so if we end up at war I’ve got more food at hand. Plenty hot dogs alround 

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10 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

You rekon vance and musk is deep state? I see him as a odd ball genius, but didnt think he was deep state

The swap runs deep probably deeper than a lot can phantom 

[WILF 49,553]

I think we have to make the clear distinction between Trump giving a bloody nose to all these crazy people who have f****d up the world…..and wether he is our “friend”

Now, although my enemies enemy is my friend I think we have to bare in mind that Trump is a nuts as any of them who live in a world untouched by all the things that effect ordinary everyday people……all he has to be is a tool to hurt the crazies, we should view him as no more than that.

Ive never travelled to America so I can’t say for sure, but from what I see on TV it’s f***ing hideous !……we think Europe is broken (and it is) but I don’t think it’s anything like America from my limited view.

My daughter has always wanted to go to America and recently had a week in New York, she said it’s the most disgusting place she has ever been….she travelled about a bit, she said Coney Island is like a vision of hell.

The things that struck her were the poverty and depravity, the disparity between the haves and have nots, wrecks of humans beings who she said you could see were just clinging on to existence living cheek by jowl with investment bankers who couldn’t give two shits. 
She said she is never going back, she hated it.

Thats the context of American leaders, that’s the world they preside over……it’s great when they are dismantling DEI or actually telling the truth about Africa but we shouldn’t loose sight of who these people are. 

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The fella was tasked to sort the nations finances out and believes deeply in balancing the books. To then see the same president that tasked him with that go and spunk a load of money that they don’t have probably has something to do with it. Is it betrayal or simply not being a yes man?

RFK doesn’t like the oil companies but Trump does. There’s loads of misalignment.

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

I think we have to make the clear distinction between Trump giving a bloody nose to all these crazy people who have f****d up the world…..and wether he is our “friend”

Now, although my enemies enemy is my friend I think we have to bare in mind that Trump is a nuts as any of them who live in a world untouched by all the things that effect ordinary everyday people……all he has to be is a tool to hurt the crazies, we should view him as no more than that.

Ive never travelled to America so I can’t say for sure, but from what I see on TV it’s f***ing hideous !……we think Europe is broken (and it is) but I don’t think it’s anything like America from my limited view.

My daughter has always wanted to go to America and recently had a week in New York, she said it’s the most disgusting place she has ever been….she travelled about a bit, she said Coney Island is like a vision of hell.

The things that struck her were the poverty and depravity, the disparity between the haves and have nots, wrecks of humans beings who she said you could see were just clinging on to existence living cheek by jowl with investment bankers who couldn’t give two shits. 
She said she is never going back, she hated it.

Thats the context of American leaders, that’s the world they preside over……it’s great when they are dismantling DEI or actually telling the truth about Africa but we shouldn’t loose sight of who these people are. 

I dont know what you think but I don't think it's possible to have a leader of any country that will be for the general public first . Anybody at any top table will always have different views and desires for the country that the general public 

I imagine a lot of career politicians all go into it with the best intentions but the world is so insanely complex I don't know how you navigate that to become a leader without being corrupted . Especially when human life can be switched off so easily .

 

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35 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

I dont know what you think but I don't think it's possible to have a leader of any country that will be for the general public first . Anybody at any top table will always have different views and desires for the country that the general public 

I think that upto the end of the 50s governments broadly thought in terms of what was good for the nation, a people first kind of mentality…..hence capitalism and commerce were tempered with state ownership and regulation to give the best overall result for the nation.

Thats not just me saying that, it’s a point I picked up watching various academics and social historians and it’s makes sense to me.

Then we gradually went to ultra capitalism, no shackles, no rules, allowed to do as they please and that certainly isn’t working for the little man …….all our modern politicians are a product of or owned by ultra capitalism.

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I imagine a lot of career politicians all go into it with the best intentions but the world is so insanely complex I don't know how you navigate that to become a leader without being corrupted . Especially when human life can be switched off so easily .

 

I don’t think that they do mate, it’s become a career in itself rather than a calling……it’s the straight out of a politics degree into a researchers role and begin your scramble to the feast…….these people couldn’t give two fucks about the nation and I think that’s obvious, just my opinion of course. 
I think we are in a situation where we just need the most horrible b*****d broadly on our side, he still a horrible b*****d but he is hurting our enemy’s and that’s good enough for a minute.

Long term, we wouldn’t want them and they won’t build a better world….but they are all we have for now. 
Jmho of course 

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1 hour ago, scotty12 said:

The swap runs deep probably deeper than a lot can phantom 

https://x.com/OMApproach/status/1930251500942422058

 

have a read mate that’s who basically groomed jd Vance into politics …. More Jews 

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2 hours ago, WILF said:

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I think we are in a situation where we just need the most horrible b*****d broadly on our side, he still a horrible b*****d but he is hurting our enemy’s and that’s good enough for a minute.

Long term, we wouldn’t want them and they won’t build a better world….but they are all we have for now. 
Jmho of course 

That I agree with.  I've read your thoughts on farage along the same lines (I think it was you)

And what you said previously to my quote is probably correct 

If that's the way politics is working then I can't see how we change direction in choosing leaders. 

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12 hours ago, Welsh_red said:

No doupt musk is a level above everybody brain wise. But I always wondered what level of genius he was actually . I know the rockets and electric cars , but I always assumed all the real cutting edge stuff he does was majorly done by the people he employs 

Eh, a level above everybody brain wise , the man's clearly a bit f***ing.tapped, live on air waving a fekin chai saw about, wasn't even a Ryobi, look I've spent time in Indiana,   there was only me bloody normal