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[Pardus 1,072]

36 minutes ago, mackem said:

The ideology is already here,Islam is deeply rooted everywhere in society and easily accessible online.

Of course, but only a small minority are extremists no matter the headlines. You can't condemn the entire population because of a few, it's doesn't matter if that's Muslims or any other religion. We need to do a better job of removing the extremists, no doubt about that.

 

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[gnasher16 30,871]

Its such a silly attitude to have that " well they're not all like it ".....its almost infantile !...........will our society be perfect if the third world wasnt here ? no.....would it be a lot better ? yes of course it would..........this almost childlike outlook of ignoring racial instinct and behaviours,ignoring the fact that many of these people instinctively hate us and want to do us harm doesnt just go away because " they're not all like it " ffs its almost laughable the excuses some people try to come up with to cover up the uncomfortable truths of basic ethnic differences and the complete disaster that has been forced multiculturalism.

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9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Its such a silly attitude to have that " well they're not all like it ".....its almost infantile !...........will our society be perfect if the third world wasnt here ? no.....would it be a lot better ? yes of course it would..........this almost childlike outlook of ignoring racial instinct and behaviours,ignoring the fact that many of these people instinctively hate us and want to do us harm doesnt just go away because " they're not all like it " ffs its almost laughable the excuses some people try to come up with to cover up the uncomfortable truths of basic ethnic differences and the complete disaster that has been forced multiculturalism.

No, the silly attitude is painting them all with the same brush. And if it was down to mere genetic instinct then why isn't Dubai like the Wild West? A minority hate us and a minority commit some of these heinous crimes, extremists should not be tolerated in the slightest.

There's a strong case to say we should have never allowed in people with no qualifications, no job prospects, who are from the poorest of regions, where crime if rife, in fact it's a no brainer.

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[kanny 21,314]

[TRUEBRIT66 1,980]

17 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Of course, but only a small minority are extremists no matter the headlines. You can't condemn the entire population because of a few, it's doesn't matter if that's Muslims or any other religion. We need to do a better job of removing the extremists, no doubt about that.

You do realise Islam is to express absolute orders to Allah as in the Quaran ?

The more Islam is accepted into this country the more likely we will be forced to follow its teachings.  

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2 minutes ago, kanny said:

Doesn't this go hand in hand with poverty though, poverty and crime go hand in hand, correlation doesn't mean causation, that doesn't point to it being genetic at all. 

But, that doesn't really change the net result, we shouldn't have been allowing in the poorest of the poorest indefinitely.

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1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

You do realise Islam is to express absolute orders to Allah as in the Quaran ?

The more Islam is accepted into this country the more likely we will be forced to follow its teachings.  

You do realise the Bible could be well classed as an extremist book? Are you seriously trying to claim that the majority of Muslims are extremists, well given the population numbers it just can't be so or else the extremist attacks would reflect that?

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9 minutes ago, Pardus said:

No, the silly attitude is painting them all with the same brush. And if it was down to mere genetic instinct then why isn't Dubai like the Wild West? A minority hate us and a minority commit some of these heinous crimes, extremists should not be tolerated in the slightest.

There's a strong case to say we should have never allowed in people with no qualifications, no job prospects, who are from the poorest of regions, where crime if rife, in fact it's a no brainer.

The facts don’t back up your romantic notion…..in every white society where they are classed as a minority (if you can call millions of people a minority ?) they are disproportionately over represented in the prison population and crime statistics ! 
 

The facts of the matter are, if they wasn’t in those society’s the crime statistics would be massively better ! 
 

So them being removed from our society’s would improve things……like, it’s not even an argument ! 

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5 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

You do realise Islam is to express absolute orders to Allah as in the Quaran ?

The more Islam is accepted into this country the more likely we will be forced to follow its teachings.  

Islam is only achieved when the whole world follows Allah,  this is why Muslims hate zionism so much,  zionism is the right to self determination, it prevents the  state of Islam ever being reached. 

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Just now, WILF said:

The facts don’t back up your romantic notion…..in every white society where they are classed as a minority (if you can call millions of people a minority ?) they are disproportionately over represented in the prison population and crime statistics ! 
 

The facts of the matter are, if they wasn’t in those society’s the crime statistics would be massively better ! 
 

So them being removed from our society’s would improve things……like, it’s not even an argument ! 

Read my reply to Kanny, maybe because they are disproportionately property stricken? But that's besides the point, I agree, we shouldn't have been welcoming immigrants from places with high crime and extreme poverty.

[kanny 21,314]

7 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Doesn't this go hand in hand with poverty though, poverty and crime go hand in hand, correlation doesn't mean causation, that doesn't point to it being genetic at all. 

But, that doesn't really change the net result, we shouldn't have been allowing in the poorest of the poorest indefinitely.

The socioeconomic argument doesn't stand up when violent crimes are put in term of per capita of the under privilege though, there's something else at play mainly cultural differences 

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Just now, Pardus said:

Read my reply to Kanny, maybe because they are disproportionately property stricken? But that's besides the point, I agree, we shouldn't have been welcoming immigrants from places with high crime and extreme poverty.

The facts of them being here and/or being poor has nothing to do with the basic logic of if they wasn’t here they wouldn’t be doing it here….and they wouldn’t be poor here either ! 

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Just now, kanny said:

The socioeconomic argument doesn't stand up when violent crimes are put in term of per capita of the under privilege though, there's something else at play mainly cultural differences 

Doesn't it? There's poor and there's poor? But of course gang crime will affect those stats, if there's a strong cultural tie to gang life.

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2 minutes ago, WILF said:

The facts of them being here and/or being poor has nothing to do with the basic logic of if they wasn’t here they wouldn’t be doing it here….and they wouldn’t be poor here either ! 

But the fact that you keep missing when you go on about this is the fact that they are here.

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1 minute ago, kanny said:

The socioeconomic argument doesn't stand up when violent crimes are put in term of per capita of the under privilege though, there's something else at play mainly cultural differences 

What folks don’t want to say is that at heart, these are base instinct people…..they display it in their culture all the time.