Wirehair pointer 1st cross

[Coconut 9]

2 hours ago, Borr said:

Gsp,s are more thought of as bird dogs, although there's always exceptions I guess. Gwps used as all rounders on continent and mix with most quarry, think the German test includes boar but I may be wrong.

It’s like this a Gwp like a welsh hound a Gsp like a fell hound the GSP is faster and as more agility and on the killing side I’ve seen a GSP dispatch a cat in seconds atb

[Moorman 1 1,323]

24 minutes ago, Coconut said:

It’s like this a Gwp like a welsh hound a Gsp like a fell hound the GSP is faster and as more agility and on the killing side I’ve seen a GSP dispatch a cat in seconds atb

My GSP wasn't anywhere near as fast at covering the ground as one of my Wire's. Also in my opinion the GWP'S are more of an alrounder and seem to take to many tasks. I  don't hear of many people using the GSP's for anything other than a gun dog.

[shaaark 10,333]

34 minutes ago, Coconut said:

It’s like this a Gwp like a welsh hound a Gsp like a fell hound the GSP is faster and as more agility and on the killing side I’ve seen a GSP dispatch a cat in seconds atb

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[jossa 964]

Gsp are half the dog of a wirehaired..  

As mentioned above you don't see many gsp being used for anything other than birds.

[Neal 1,839]

Thanks everybody, that's pretty much what I suspected.

[Black neck 15,277]

7 hours ago, Neal said:

Thanks everybody, that's pretty much what I suspected.

I found furgals last post made the most sense o the lot tbh neal

[shaaark 10,333]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

I found furgals last post made the most sense o the lot tbh neal

Knew you wouldn't let me down, blacky. 

By the way, just bought a new chest freezer.  Last couple of nights been a tad warm, so thought I'd get a new one early, before summer hits us properly. 

Edited April 9 by shaaark

[Black neck 15,277]

3 hours ago, shaaark said:

Knew you wouldn't let me down, blacky. 

By the way, just bought a new chest freezer.  Last couple of nights been a tad warm, so thought I'd get a new one early, before summer hits us properly. 

I'm.learning 2 lower me core temperature by meditation and prayer

[shaaark 10,333]

51 minutes ago, Black neck said:

I'm.learning 2 lower me core temperature by meditation and prayer

You could be on to a winner there, blacky, good thinking. 

[leegreen 2,105]

On 08/04/2024 at 05:51, Moorman 1 said:

Not sure what you mean by sharp but I've had both and the wires are a lot harder going and better alround vermin dogs. The Danish lines are heavier than the German bloodlines. I like that as they are more robust and have more stamina.

I mean on their feet, the short haired I know are more nimble.  Yes defo, GWH are a better vermin dog.

[shaaark 10,333]

From what I've read about both, they are different breeds, not just coats.

Surely, that would explain the differences more than just coat type?!

[Moorman 1 1,323]

6 minutes ago, shaaark said:

From what I've read about both, they are different breeds, not just coats.

Surely, that would explain the differences more than just coat type?!

Yeah some people think the only difference is coat, but as you say they're a totally different breed.

[shaaark 10,333]

58 minutes ago, Moorman 1 said:

Yeah some people think the only difference is coat, but as you say they're a totally different breed.

Thank you mate.

Is that correct though?

I personally only know one fella that owned a pair of gsp's, brother and sister, and he also told me that they were a different breed type from the gwp?

[Moorman 1 1,323]

5 hours ago, shaaark said:

Thank you mate.

Is that correct though?

I personally only know one fella that owned a pair of gsp's, brother and sister, and he also told me that they were a different breed type from the gwp?

Yes they come from totally different backgrounds.

[Coconut 9]

They are both HPR no different they point that’s what it says on the tin I’ve got Gwp Lurcher mix but I know somebody who as a few GSP and I’d never rule them out as vermin dogs definitely not atb