Mortimer and Whitehouse.

[mackem 29,522]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 Tyne….. a strong spring summer autumn and winter run. Now one of the few rivers where you could actually expect to,catch a fish . 

Tyne,wear and derwent,had good numbers of fish from them all,oh to turn the clock back eh?

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1 minute ago, mackem said:

Tyne,wear and derwent,had good numbers of fish from them all,oh to turn the clock back eh?

Yes I've spent much of my life pursuing Salmo Salar, the king of fish, mostly legally.

About ten per cent of salmon ascending a river weren't actually hatched there. They just get lost. We used to catch a fair few salmon with a different look to them. They were a bit rainbow trout looking, hard to describe. But we called these Derwent salmon.

Guys who fish a lot of different rivers can look at a salmon and tell you which river it is from . A bloke I knew was jailed for presenting a salmon of 36 pound to a fishmonger, claiming he had caught it on a local river. The fishmonger could see that it wasn't and called the cops who had it DNA sampled. It was shown to be from a Highland river. The bloke was jailed because he had a lot of previous. He didn't help himself because the fish was obviously net marked. 

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24 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 No, "those in the know", are dead against hatcheries. And opposed to genetic mixing.

 But I went to a presentation by the chap who cleaned up The Tyne and made it one off the best rivers in the country.  He said he had deliberately broken all the rules,  begged and borrowed spawn and hatchlings from any river who would give or sell him them. He said look at the result.. a strong spring summer autumn and winter run. Now one of the few rivers where you could actually expect to,catch a fish . When you point this out to the boffins they simply won't accept it. Like those who were determined to insist the world is flat. I genuinely think its all academic now anyway. Anglers on The Wye reckon salmon will be extinct on their river in 6 years time. The rivers in Scotland  are reporting the lowest catches on record. The Scottish government's  response is 'head in the sand' and to allow more salmon farms. But some countries insist on landlocked salmon farms, the technology exists to build these so they can't possibly infect wild fish with lice, but money talks and the Scottish government is in bed with the chinese markets who buy a lot of farmed salmon,   so armegeddon beckons.

Didn't realise we were selling it to the chinks

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2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Didn't realise we were selling it to the chinks

It's  not even 'we'  mate. Most of the salmon farms are owned by foreigners...Norwegians especially. Same as the gas and oil, sold off to foreign companies. Don't get me started, I as predictable as Wilf is on his hobby horse.

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Mortimer spoils it ...he is a unfunny total dick head................would have been better with Gazza ..at least he knows how to fish...

[mackem 29,522]

14 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yes I've spent much of my life pursuing Salmo Salar, the king of fish, mostly legally.

About ten per cent of salmon ascending a river weren't actually hatched there. They just get lost. We used to catch a fair few salmon with a different look to them. They were a bit rainbow trout looking, hard to describe. But we called these Derwent salmon.

Guys who fish a lot of different rivers can look at a salmon and tell you which river it is from . A bloke I knew was jailed for presenting a salmon of 36 pound to a fishmonger, claiming he had caught it on a local river. The fishmonger could see that it wasn't and called the cops who had it DNA sampled. It was shown to be from a Highland river. The bloke was jailed because he had a lot of previous. He didn't help himself because the fish was obviously net marked. 

Ah,the infamous mesh-marks,heard of them but never actually seen them myself.I one got just over 120 mixed salmon and sea trout over a weekend from a north-east river,I was still at school at the time,used to be great sitting in the dark beside the river listening to decent sized fish jump.

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20 minutes ago, mackem said:

Ah,the infamous mesh-marks,heard of them but never actually seen them myself.I one got just over 120 mixed salmon and sea trout over a weekend from a north-east river,I was still at school at the time,used to be great sitting in the dark beside the river listening to decent sized fish jump.

Bloody hell mate that beats me. Me and two mates had 120 odd sea trout once but no salmon. Some haul mate. Well done. How did you carry them?

We used to reckon 3 grilse for every salmon. That's changed now, there's mores salmon than grilse. Crackers.

One year EVERY grilse we caught were net marked.  It's like an obvious black line on the back and sides of the fish. Like a thin, black bruise. The fact that they were all net marked and all small demonstrates that there must have been miles of Gill nets on the migration routes. The bigger grilse were landed but the smaller ones squeezed through.

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6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

One year EVERY grilse we caught were net marked.  It's like an obvious black line on the back and sides of the fish. Like a thin, black bruise. The fact that they were all net marked and all small demonstrates that there must have been miles of Gill nets on the migration routes. The bigger grilse were landed but the smaller ones squeezed through.

That’s terrible that is,I think someone might have been netting them?

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2 minutes ago, mackem said:

That’s terrible that is,I think someone might have been netting them?

You realise that photo is incriminating evidence?lol

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Just now, jukel123 said:

You realise that photo is incriminating evidence?lol

No face no case lol.

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What's your best sea trout Mack? I've had two 12s and one 13 pound. The 13 I got on the fly, first cast. Second cast I caught a 7 pound trout. I went home  after that and retired that fly. Lol

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2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

What's your best sea trout Mack? I've had two 12s and one 13 pound. The 13 I got on the fly, first cast. Second cast I caught a 7 pound trout. I went home  after that and retired that fly. Lol

Some biggies over 10Lb mate,but we were kids getting a £ a Lb even back then and we gutted them on the bank,we weighed the biggest Salmon which was almost 30 but I beat that this season legit on rod and line.

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1 minute ago, mackem said:

Some biggies over 10Lb mate,but we were kids getting a £ a Lb even back then and we gutted them on the bank,we weighed the biggest Salmon which was almost 30 but I beat that this season legit on rod and line.

All the hours I've put in I should have got a biggun, but the  best I've had was only 20 and a half pound. Oh well that's fishing. Funny enough I hooked a big, big salmon  a few weeks  back I only had it on for 30,seconds. I saw its tail it was a cracker. It fought like a whale. Adrenalin was going apeshit.

Next season I'll get  the b*****d.lol

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1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

All the hours I've put in I should have got a biggun, but the  best I've had was only 20 and a half pound. Oh well that's fishing. Funny enough I hooked a big, big salmon  a few weeks  back I only had it on for 30,seconds. I saw its tail it was a cracker. It fought like a whale. Adrenalin was going apeshit.

Next season I'll get  the b*****d.lol

I want to get a 40 next,the 30’s this year were powerful running downstream into the next pool,no stopping them,a 40 or 50 would be off the scale.

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3 minutes ago, mackem said:

I want to get a 40 next,the 30’s this year were powerful running downstream into the next pool,no stopping them,a 40 or 50 would be off the scale.

My son holds the family record... 28 and a half ferox brown trout. It had a head like a bucket.