WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 04:55 Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:55 5 hours ago, Seagull said: That's not really true though is it because you, me and the rest of the globe descended from people that migrated out of Africa relatively recently in our existence. As for why, it's probably multiple reasons, climate, geography, flaura, fauna. A good book to read for you is Guns, Germs & Steel, thought provoking. I looked up that book and read the synopsis, it’s an ideas book rather than factual and I can write one word to make it all fall down…..Rhodesia ! Once the bread basket of Africa, now a wasteland….. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,905 Posted yesterday at 05:30 Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:30 34 minutes ago, WILF said: I looked up that book and read the synopsis, it’s an ideas book rather than factual and I can write one word to make it all fall down…..Rhodesia ! Once the bread basket of Africa, now a wasteland….. can blame robert mugarbe for that, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 192 Posted yesterday at 05:38 Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:38 49 minutes ago, WILF said: Isn’t it ?……you tell me ? What does jihad look like ?…..does it have to be soldiers with guns or can it be by silence ?, getting yourself into positions of power ?, undermining other cultures to weaken them ?, acquiring crucial infrastructure ?, promoting your culture in new and expanding areas ? So, you tell me That's just silence, I've never understood this, "why don't they speak up" rubbish. I mean what do you expect them to do? Do we start protesting whenever one of our own carries out a horrific attack? What has a terrorist attack got to do with an innocent fellow Muslim? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 192 Posted yesterday at 05:40 Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:40 (edited) 57 minutes ago, WILF said: I looked up that book and read the synopsis, it’s an ideas book rather than factual and I can write one word to make it all fall down…..Rhodesia ! Once the bread basket of Africa, now a wasteland….. That's what they all are, ideas. This talk of they had a 400,000 year headstart is obviously false seeing as these people were our ancestors and as I said, the people outside of Africa stemmed from humans that dispersed out of the mother land relatively recently in our history. We also descend from a small base population, hence why there is more genetic variation within Africa than there is outside of it. As for "race" success, the more I think about it, the less I think it is to do with genetics. It's only really within the last thousand or so years where we have massively surpassed the civilizations of Africa, that ain't genetics, they don't work that fast. Edited yesterday at 05:56 by Seagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 05:59 Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:59 28 minutes ago, riohog said: can blame robert mugarbe for that, Because ?……. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,905 Posted yesterday at 06:02 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:02 Just now, WILF said: Because ?……. he he got rid of the white farmers that knew how to tend the land and gave it back to the blacks who didnt have a clue , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 06:04 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:04 22 minutes ago, Seagull said: That's just silence, I've never understood this, "why don't they speak up" rubbish. I mean what do you expect them to do? Do we start protesting whenever one of our own carries out a horrific attack? What has a terrorist attack got to do with an innocent fellow Muslim? No, if Europeans get wind of a dude raping young girls they go round and burn his house down not ask if they can come along and join in and all their family members and extended family members keep quiet about it. See, that’s what you get with clans and the 3rd world is still a clan system……we did away with the clan system in Christian Europe a thousand years ago, the church did it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 06:04 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:04 2 minutes ago, riohog said: he he got rid of the white farmers that knew how to tend the land and gave it back to the blacks who didnt have a clue , Bingo ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 192 Posted yesterday at 06:06 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:06 Just now, WILF said: No, if Europeans get wind of a dude raping young girls they go round and burn his house down not ask if they can come along and join in and all their family members and extended family members keep quiet about it. See, that’s what you get with clans and the 3rd world is still a clan system……we did away with the clan system in Christian Europe a thousand years ago, the church did it. Do they? Really? So, you're saying that those Muslims working in the NHS are conspiring against us with terrorists? Is that what you really believe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 06:07 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:07 24 minutes ago, Seagull said: That's what they all are, ideas. This talk of they had a 400,000 year headstart is obviously false seeing as these people were our ancestors and as I said, the people outside of Africa stemmed from humans that dispersed out of the mother land relatively recently in our history. We also descend from a small base population, hence why there is more genetic variation within Africa than there is outside of it. As for "race" success, the more I think about it, the less I think it is to do with genetics. It's only really within the last thousand or so years where we have massively surpassed the civilizations of Africa, that ain't genetics, they don't work that fast. I’m sure you and thousands of other well meaning excuse finders can come up with all sorts of excuses…..my theory is simple, we are different ! It’s called generic inheritance, everyone here who owns a dog and went out of their way to get a decently bred thing believes in it…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 192 Posted yesterday at 06:07 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:07 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Bingo ! What has that got to do with genetics or racial instinct? Isn't that down to corruption? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,941 Posted yesterday at 06:09 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:09 The first waves out of Africa (70+ thousand years ago) are the same, Borneo, Ozzie Aboriginals etc an infinitum. The know the land and how to live off it but haven't built anything of note. The second migrations into these areas and beyond started building temples, significant structures (goblin teki, stone henge, pyramids. Manchu Picchu etc). What changed and why is there pretty much nothing like it in sub Saharan Africa? There are many Africans with extraordinary intelligence but they seem to be the exception not the norm. Is it culture or just a lack of imagination to make their lives better? It cannot be denied that early Arabs, Persians etc adopted Hellenic and classic ideas, maths etc and improved on them, then suddenly went backwards due to religion. There are many schools of thought on this. But importing a mentality of 10000 years ago into modern society is just bat shit crazy. I was watching a doc the other day and they were saying that there is no culture of maintenance, thinking ahead to prevent collapse of infrastructure. Whether it's true or not who knows but to say there are no differences and what those are just prevents debate and honest discussion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,541 Posted yesterday at 06:12 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:12 1 minute ago, Seagull said: Do they? Really? So, you're saying that those Muslims working in the NHS are conspiring against us with terrorists? Is that what you really believe? No, I said every Muslim is a brother and Islam comes before all when push comes to shove……their position in important roles of western society still empowers Islam, these people are not our friend because they have no reason to be our friend and they don’t want to be…..and I don’t particularly care if they are either. Islam is a constant state of jihad in some form…..you don’t exterminate society’s with bombs anymore, you do it with a pen ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 192 Posted yesterday at 06:12 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:12 Just now, WILF said: I’m sure you and thousands of other well meaning excuse finders can come up with all sorts of excuses…..my theory is simple, we are different ! It’s called generic inheritance, everyone here who owns a dog and went out of their way to get a decently bred thing believes in it…… No, it's backed up by science and evidence whereas non of your claims are. As I pointed out, it's only within the last thousand years or so where we have leaped ahead of African civilizations. So, for over 50,000 years or so, when our relatively small population dispersed out of Africa we were no more advanced, why is that? Do you believe our genetic genius layed dormant for 50 or so thousand years and then was ignited just like that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 703 Posted yesterday at 06:13 Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:13 Just open your eyes and look...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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