New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Daniel cain said: These folks should be given medication for their illness,or a good f***ing slap..not wasting the time of NHS staff and resources Deffo, the media is f***ing their heads up by making it trendy to be queer, more freaks on tv now than normal folk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, baker boy said: The NHS needs a complete overhaul, doesnt matter how much money is thrown at it a big percentage of it disappears down a big black fckn hole and lets remember it isnt free, Ive been paying for it for 43 fckn years The democratic system needs sorting first, then everything else will follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, baker boy said: A democratic system woud be a start Everything in chaos, indigenous people becoming second rate citizens, bankers fleecing the system, easy to see how hitler got into power in 1930s Edited April 12, 2022 by New moon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: You can blame all the folk you want, but ultimately it’s folk like you that’s fcuked the job up. Too bitter to do your job by looks of it, I used to stand by the nhs an it’s staff, but fcuk me it’s not politicians that wrongly diagnosed my ma an let cancer eat her whilst they passed her from pillar to post, it was docs an nurses, aye the govt may have been at fault for my granny not being able to get a ambulance due to cuts, but it’s was doctors an nurses that xrayed a woman closer to 90 than any other decade an sent her home, not some Tory Mp, maybe you an your colleagues could start by giving a toss instead a being a bitter anti Tory little girl Unfortunately no system is error free and one that is understaffed and under resourced makes more mistakes. Ps do u have to come on with the school room insults, surly you are better than that??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, baker boy said: The NHS needs a complete overhaul, doesnt matter how much money is thrown at it a big percentage of it disappears down a big black fckn hole and lets remember it isnt free, Ive been paying for it for 43 fckn years It does but that includes proper funding and resources which costs money. The stories of NHS waste is exactly that a story made up by those that want to see its end, of course there is waste, all big systems have waste but the cost saving of size outweighs the loss. The reality is that we have reasonable health outcomes compared to many countries yet pay much less towards our health, this won't last as the under funding is already eating away at the NHS's ability to perform its role. In truth the country where all the money goes down a black hole is the USA and the private sector. How does UK healthcare spending compare with other countries? - Office for National Statistics WWW.ONS.GOV.UK Healthcare spending in the UK compared with other countries. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: If you keep talking down to folk an trying tj blame everybody else then aye it is, an no obviously I’m not better than that, but neither are you, you just get your digs in slyly. an it seems nurses an doctors like the Labour Party an blameless eh, we got gp’s the country over raping the system working minimum hours an seeing minimum patients, doctors an nurses are making serious fcuk ups everyday, I didn’t know you had some Tory Mo stood next to you telling you to hurry up, making you make mistakes, how about yous start dealing with the patient infront if you, not the government you want to lose the next election It’s simple of somebody comes infront of you, do your Fcuking jobs Man your obsessed with the Tories, give your head a shake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,495 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, sandymere said: The NHS is being run into the ground, make people unhappy with it then they won't complain when its sold off, least not until how worse off they are with an american system. Running short staffed all the time, everything based on cost not outcomes.....................Promised of money and new hospitals that never appear. 6000 extra GP promised but in reality a fall of thousands in the numbers, 6 new hospital which aren't actually hospitals. But inspite of all that its still better than the American system. We grew up in an age of decent health and social care with unions and employment laws, i think its a system we should be leaving for our children and grandchildren. edit to add, she gives some wrong info re NHS, visitors would be billed for emergency treatment. https://www.swbh.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Overseas-visitors-webpage2.pdf Genuine question, the NHS has been saying it’s being run into the ground and needs even more money for 40 years…..when does that excuse run out ? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,495 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, sandymere said: It does but that includes proper funding and resources which costs money. The stories of NHS waste is exactly that a story made up by those that want to see its end, of course there is waste, all big systems have waste but the cost saving of size outweighs the loss. The reality is that we have reasonable health outcomes compared to many countries yet pay much less towards our health, this won't last as the under funding is already eating away at the NHS's ability to perform its role. In truth the country where all the money goes down a black hole is the USA and the private sector. How does UK healthcare spending compare with other countries? - Office for National Statistics WWW.ONS.GOV.UK Healthcare spending in the UK compared with other countries. I used to have lads come in to work, they got £70 a day at the time and most were wankers……they always said the same, if you they had got £100 a day they would be legends ! But the fact is, they wouldn’t, they would still be wankers……the NHS has been making the same excuse for as long as I can remember. Be professional and do things to the highest standard and the money will come, it don’t work the other way round Im afraid. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, WILF said: I used to have lads come in to work, they got £70 a day at the time and most were wankers……they always said the same, if you they had got £100 a day they would be legends ! But the fact is, they wouldn’t, they would still be wankers……the NHS has been making the same excuse for as long as I can remember. Be professional and do things to the highest standard and the money will come, it don’t work the other way round Im afraid. Comparing Dr’s, nurses, consultants, surgeons to £70 a day lads so your saying that the problem is performance based and nothing to do with funding? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,856 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, sandymere said: It does but that includes proper funding and resources which costs money. The stories of NHS waste is exactly that a story made up by those that want to see its end, of course there is waste, all big systems have waste but the cost saving of size outweighs the loss. The reality is that we have reasonable health outcomes compared to many countries yet pay much less towards our health, this won't last as the under funding is already eating away at the NHS's ability to perform its role. In truth the country where all the money goes down a black hole is the USA and the private sector. How does UK healthcare spending compare with other countries? - Office for National Statistics WWW.ONS.GOV.UK Healthcare spending in the UK compared with other countries. Sorry but your talking shit. Twice I've started writing a post about my experiences with the NHS and twice I just gave up as it gets me so stressed. The NHS doesn't have a problem with waste , that's like claiming there is no issue with mass immigration and that more immigration is the answer . I can't even be fcked answering 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Nhs single arse wipe private double arse wipe you still die Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,147 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 There was a time when our NHS was the envy of the world....sadly its now become a target of the world and the backdrop is a compromise and drop in standards for the very people it was built for.....like everything else we are now consistently reminded that the achievements of our ancestors should be surrendered to the vulnerable victims of white supremacy. 5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, gnasher16 said: There was a time when our NHS was the envy of the world....sadly its now become a target of the world and the backdrop is a compromise and drop in standards for the very people it was built for.....like everything else we are now consistently reminded that the achievements of our ancestors should be surrendered to the vulnerable victims of white supremacy. Awesome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,495 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, New moon said: Comparing Dr’s, nurses, consultants, surgeons to £70 a day lads so your saying that the problem is performance based and nothing to do with funding? I’m saying there is a truism, and that truism is that good work leads to better money, not the other way round. You don’t play Sunday league and turn into Ronaldo just because someone writes you a cheque for 600,000 a week !……it’s takes work and a dedication to consistently producing quality in everything you do. Don’t be silly mate 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m saying there is a truism, and that truism is that good work leads to better money, not the other way round. You don’t play Sunday league and turn into Ronaldo just because someone writes you a cheque for 600,000 a week !……it’s takes work and a dedication to consistently producing quality in everything you do. Don’t be silly mate I think you will find its work and dedication thats propping the nhs up, as for ronaldo, there 2 a penny in the hospitals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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