BGD 6,437 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, WILF said: More power to her elbow and anyone else keeping a few quid away from the greedy c**ts Bit different when her husband is the greedy c**t though isn't it? He's happy to put up taxes on the ordinary working bod who has no chance of dodging it without getting bent over while knowing that he and his wife are doing everything possible to dodge as much as possible. Nah sorry pal that doesn't wash with me, this isn't someone sticking two fingers up at the ruling classes it's the ruling classes sticking two fingers up at us. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,667 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, BGD said: Bit different when her husband is the greedy c**t though isn't it? He's happy to put up taxes on the ordinary working bod who has no chance of dodging it without getting bent over while knowing that he and his wife are doing everything possible to dodge as much as possible. Nah sorry pal that doesn't wash with me, this isn't someone sticking two fingers up at the ruling classes it's the ruling classes sticking two fingers up at us. With all due respect mate, what’s new ? nobody is saying she has done anything illegal and if it’s legal then it’s fine. Instead of worrying and shouting about what she (legally) isn’t paying why don’t we make a big song and dance about what we ARE paying and working nearly 7 months of the year for ? But we won’t, happy to content ourselves with seeing someone else take a kicking now and again. Schadenfruede mate, nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,667 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, mackay said: Tax avoidance has been going on since, well since tax was introduced, granted she's doing it on a grander scale, it's human nature. I'd possibly pay a bit more tax if I thought it would go to the right places and genuinely help, it won't. It doesn't matter how much you, or her pay, we'll be no better off. Bingo ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,347 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, BGD said: Bit different when her husband is the greedy c**t though isn't it? He's happy to put up taxes on the ordinary working bod who has no chance of dodging it without getting bent over while knowing that he and his wife are doing everything possible to dodge as much as possible. Nah sorry pal that doesn't wash with me, this isn't someone sticking two fingers up at the ruling classes it's the ruling classes sticking two fingers up at us. f**k me sideways Dave i agree completely on that whole statement , and I'm sure millions more do too 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,470 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 It's legal, just like fox hunting and coursing used to be legal ! Tax avoidance loopholes are made by the rich and powerful, for the rich and powerful........just because it's legal, doesn't make it right. Cheers. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 Tax Rises for Workers, Tax Cuts for Bankers TRIBUNEMAG.CO.UK Rishi Sunak is planning to cut the surcharge tax on bank profits by 60% while ploughing ahead with raising National Insurance for workers – further proof of who... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 Why UK's oil and gas revenues are dwarfed by Norway's WWW.BUSINESSFORSCOTLAND.COM Point 1: Norway’s oil and gas industry is state owned, whilst the UK’s is privatised. Unlike the UK’s oil and gas sector, Norway’s is owned by the Norwegian... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,667 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, chartpolski said: It's legal, just like fox hunting and coursing used to be legal ! Tax avoidance loopholes are made by the rich and powerful, for the rich and powerful........just because it's legal, doesn't make it right. Cheers. Actually, in the case of Tax, it does mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,667 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, sandymere said: Tax Rises for Workers, Tax Cuts for Bankers TRIBUNEMAG.CO.UK Rishi Sunak is planning to cut the surcharge tax on bank profits by 60% while ploughing ahead with raising National Insurance for workers – further proof of who... I wonder who pays that surcharge ? Answers on a postcard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,470 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 When Jimmy Carr was found to be using a LEGAL loophole to avoid tax, David Cameron said it was legal, but "morally reprehensible." Then when it was found that him and his wife were trust fund beneficiaries of their respective fathers LEGAL loophole offshore tax avoidance accounts, he went very quiet on the subject ! So, I reiterate, legal.......but not right. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,276 Posted April 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) So as CP says, laws have been made by the rich,the powerful and the influential which favour themselves. As Wilf says a single mother who swindles a few quid is crucified. Where do we go from here? How do we get laws that reflect the majority view of what fairness is? Democracy ain't working. Edited April 7, 2022 by jukel123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,470 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: So as CP says, laws have been made by the rich,the powerful and the influential which favour themselves. As Wilf says a single mother who swindles a few quid is crucified. Where do we go from here? How do we get laws that reflect the majority view of what fairness is? Democracy ain't working. I don't know mate, far greater minds than mine have pondered this and come to no conclusion. As Churchill said; "Democracy is the least worst of the alternatives", or words to that effect. At a debate, long, long ago, the question was " What is the best form of government"; my reply was "A Benevolent Dictatorship", , but sadly there hasn't been one since Solomon, and as someone once said; "power corrupts......absolute power absolutely corrupts" ! Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,276 Posted April 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I don't know mate, far greater minds than mine have pondered this and come to no conclusion. As Churchill said; "Democracy is the least worst of the alternatives", or words to that effect. At a debate, long, long ago, the question was " What is the best form of government"; my reply was "A Benevolent Dictatorship", , but sadly there hasn't been one since Solomon, and as someone once said; "power corrupts......absolute power absolutely corrupts" ! Cheers. I would suggest the first thing we do is disqualify anybody who desperately wants to become an mp. There's something dodgy about these people. Mps should be co_ opted. We might then get people we can trust. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,470 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I would suggest the first thing we do is disqualify anybody who desperately wants to become an mp. There's something dodgy about these people. Mps should be co_ opted. We might then get people we can trust. A quote by Billy Connolly WWW.GOODREADS.COM The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.”Don't vote. It just encourages them.... Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,667 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: When Jimmy Carr was found to be using a LEGAL loophole to avoid tax, David Cameron said it was legal, but "morally reprehensible." Then when it was found that him and his wife were trust fund beneficiaries of their respective fathers LEGAL loophole offshore tax avoidance accounts, he went very quiet on the subject ! So, I reiterate, legal.......but not right. Cheers. Moral & Tax have no place in the same sentence mate, they just don’t. Where is the morality in the forceful appropriation of other peoples money by the state ?……it’s just nonsense to suggest we can attach any kind of morality or “right” to it…….moral don’t even come into it. Someone is trying to take as much of your money as possible by force…..and you are trying to keep as much out of their hands as possible, simple as that. Not arguing by the way, I just find it an interesting conversation 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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