SPACE!

[Born Hunter 17,960]

11 minutes ago, Francie said:

What is the point in colonising an other planet, especially when there's no oxygen? 

Or water

Or food

Sounds pretty pointless to me,an a waste of money , an I wouldn't trust these people. 

So total recall might actually be true

Don't go then. 

[Greb147 6,810]

3 minutes ago, Francie said:

It's never gona happen greb, Mars has nothing to start with, water food etc

They have a habitable planet under our feet an they can't look after it. 

Where is musks rockets, going after docking with iss? 

The iss is still in our orbit so technically its not in space. 

Mars is 140 million miles away on average, a manned craft will not make it. 

Certainly not in our lifetime I believe but it would be very possible in the future, that's if we don't wipe ourselves out first. 

You can never predict the future, at the time of the moon landings you would have thought that  50 years in to the future we would be visiting Mars, in reality we went down different routes. 

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[Francie 6,368]

4 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Certainly not in our lifetime I believe but it would be very possible in the future, that's if we don't wipe ourselves out first. 

You can never predict the future, at the time of the moon landings you would have thought that  50 years in to the future we would be visiting Mars, in reality we went down different routes. 

Oh arrr the moon landings lol, that's right  it happened over fifty years ago an still f**k all. 

What's the old line again why they can't get back to moon

 

[Born Hunter 17,960]

FACT! 

[Greb147 6,810]

1 minute ago, Francie said:

Oh arrr the moon landings lol, that's right  it happened over fifty years ago an still f**k all. 

What's the old line again why they can't get back to moon

 

Flat earther alert. 

[Greyman 32,392]

3 hours ago, Francie said:

Oh arrr the moon landings lol, that's right  it happened over fifty years ago an still f**k all. 

What's the old line again why they can't get back to moon

 

Think the main issue with the moon landing, back then now and in the future, is the van hallen belt a belt of radiation around the planet that it’s to expensive to pass through today but somehow we managed it 50 years back in an aluminium craft with less technology than a bmw,

[Greb147 6,810]

32 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Think the main issue with the moon landing, back then now and in the future, is the van hallen belt a belt of radiation around the planet that it’s to expensive to pass through today but somehow we managed it 50 years back in an aluminium craft with less technology than a bmw,

Or perhaps it's just the dedication and commitment to carry out such a project, no other in the history of mankind has come close. 

[Tyla 3,179]

5 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

How will colonising more of our solar system's bodies make that worse mate? Do you think that essentially dead planets/moon/asteroids have some sort of conservation value?

No one knows do they? Could be all sorts of mineral or other resources for us to plunder, which is no doubt why they want to go there.

In my eyes it's rather like a spoilt child being given a replacement toy after smashing up the first one. 

[Born Hunter 17,960]

13 minutes ago, Tyla said:

No one knows do they? Could be all sorts of mineral or other resources for us to plunder, which is no doubt why they want to go there.

In my eyes it's rather like a spoilt child being given a replacement toy after smashing up the first one. 

Fair enough. I see it like this,

We know of only one Eden in the Universe, and because we are a successful species we are stripping it unsustainable and in a way that no species has done before. Now, there are effectively an infinite number of sterile extra terrestrial bodies out there that could take the pressure off or even re-establish this unique garden. That's the conservationist in me.

The explorer in me says that leaving this planet will be the greatest act of discovery possible, past present and future.

Then there's the basic Darwinian dumb organism that is just following it's programming side, spreading our eggs between a few different baskets is a good measure to prevent extinction.

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[Greyman 32,392]

14 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Or perhaps it's just the dedication and commitment to carry out such a project, no other in the history of mankind has come close. 

Think an inch of lead would have been more helpful than dedication and commitment when travelling through a radioactive belt that spreads for miles and would have fried anyone sat inside a couple of MM of aluminium, not for or against, it’s just the one thing that to me has never really been properly explained and the fact that all these years later all space travel stays inside the belt kinda suggests we can’t travel through it

[Born Hunter 17,960]

18 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Think an inch of lead would have been more helpful than dedication and commitment when travelling through a radioactive belt that spreads for miles and would have fried anyone sat inside a couple of MM of aluminium, not for or against, it’s just the one thing that to me has never really been properly explained and the fact that all these years later all space travel stays inside the belt kinda suggests we can’t travel through it

Radiation dose is a function of intensity and time exposed, so there's nothing strictly impassible about it if you have some control of the spacecrafts speed. The faster they're going the less time they are exposed and so the lower the dose.

Edited June 1, 2020 by Born Hunter

[Greb147 6,810]

4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Radiation dose is a function of intensity and time exposed, so there's nothing strictly impassible about it if you have some control of the spacecrafts speed. The faster they're going the less time they are exposed and so the lower the dose.

They also plotted a course through them with the least intense areas of radiation. 

[Tyla 3,179]

34 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Fair enough. I see it like this,

We know of only one Eden in the Universe, and because we are a successful species we are stripping it unsustainable and in a way that no species has done before. Now, there are effectively an infinite number of sterile extra terrestrial bodies out there that could take the pressure off or even re-establish this unique garden. That's the conservationist in me.

The explorer in me says that leaving this planet will be the greatest act of discovery possible, past present and future.

Then there's the basic Darwinian dumb organism that is just following it's programming side, spreading our eggs between a few different baskets is a good measure to prevent extinction.

I see your point but i believe, as a species, we can't be trusted not to greedily gobble up anything we come across without bothering to look into the implications to either ourselves or anything else. Our operations on this planet are a good example of this. As such I don't trust us to be given access to anywhere else. We are basically evil monkeys, very successful evil monkeys no doubt, but evil monkeys nonetheless. 

[low plains drifter 11,306]

On 30/05/2020 at 22:18, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

If you look closely you'll see the ironed on chest patch reads space cadet

[Born Hunter 17,960]

9 minutes ago, Tyla said:

I see your point but i believe, as a species, we can't be trusted not to greedily gobble up anything we come across without bothering to look into the implications to either ourselves or anything else. Our operations on this planet are a good example of this. As such I don't trust us to be given access to anywhere else. We are basically evil monkeys, very successful evil monkeys no doubt, but evil monkeys nonetheless. 

I'm in total agreement that we are wrecking the joint. I just view it very objectively, rather than ethically, we're just doing what nature designed us to do. The fact that we are very self aware and emotionally developed gives us this unique awareness of this destruction and so we see consequential conservationist and environmentalist movements.

I think that's a positive to take from it but fundamentally we're still that dumb species following it's programming and we are struggling to stop that and by the time we maybe do figure it out the place will be little more than another boring rock flying through space with scattered 'nature' reserves giving us some illusion as to what the place was thousands of years ago.

I dunno, I just think that colonisation can only be a good thing for Earth as well as our species. But foremost it's absolutely awe inspiring for me. It's the greatest frontier imaginable. 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Born Hunter