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I'm hoping somebody can help me with some advice. I've been feeding my dogs on a BARF diet for over twenty years (that makes me sound like Keith Fit on Gigglebiz!) without any problems. However, my latest pup (currently eight months old) is having one major problem with it. He house-trained really quickly but I still found that he had occasional accidents in his crate overnight. To cut an extremely long story short...after numerous trial runs on different amounts of different ingredients it always came down to the same thing...chicken bones within chicken portions e.g. wings, thighs, drumsticks etc.

At one point, because nothing seemed to be working I even did something I've not done for years and tried him on some dried food...and it worked fine! It's called Taste of the Wild and, although the poos are bigger, they're a pretty good consistency i.e. not the wet, stodgy things I used to have to try to pick up before I went BARF in the 90s. Basically, I've been repeating the same thing several times over the last few months...dry food works fine so I try him on BARF again and within a week he's crapped in his crate causing the usual problems that go with it i.e. major clean-up operation! However, as I said above, I think I've focused it down to the chicken bones as causing the problem. Although the poos are very runny (the accident ones) and I initially presumed something was causing diarrhoea I'm now fairly sure it's the opposite in that he seems to be producing the runny stuff in a vain attempt to clear out the hard stuff. I'm basing this on occasional hard lumps in the poo and even occasional spots of blood. I'll also sometimes find whole pieces of bone within the poo (like a huge owl pellet). The best way to describe it as though his stomach juices are not doing their usual job of breaking down the bone (as they've done fine with every other dog I've fed on exactly the same diet) so he has to try harder to force it out resulting in an explosion...apologies if you're eating while reading this.

So, do I continue with the Taste of the Wild (which is a good quality dry food and he seems to do fine on it) or try something else and, if so, then what...maybe stop the chicken portions and stick with pre-prepared minced rabbit, lamb etc which I can get at my local pet shop but is more than twice the price of the dry? The latter also wouldn't solve the problem of something for his teeth to work on. One thing to add: I've no "local butchers" close by which is why all my BARF feeding is now done via the pet shop (NaturesMenu) or Sainsbury's (frozen chicken which is ironically a fraction of the price of "dog quality" frozen chicken wings from the pet shop). Thanks in advance!

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Can you not get hold of a mincer ? If it’s only doing chicken then you won’t have a problem and a light hand one will do ... that way he gets the bone but ground down so as not to cause him any discomfort......

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Thanks Socks; I'd not considered that.👍

MJenks: as it's a BARF diet surely it should be prunes...then he can shoot the neighbours' cat when he pumps out the stones!😿

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Is it chicken he has a problem with in general? My last lurcher could eat anything but chicken gave him the squits for the first 4 years and then he snapped out of it.

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To be honest, I'm still not certain. I'm in the process this week of trying him on some minced chicken without the whole bones to see if that makes a difference...with a full bottle of stain and odour remover and plenty of kitchen towels at the ready!

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I had one lurcher that couldn't eat raw chicken including bones, or rather she'd eat it (to begin with until she learned what happened) and then throw it back up within half an hour. Eventually she refused it, but was fine on lamb bones. Every individual is different, and if a dog is fine on what purports to be a good, balanced diet, then feed it, but monitor its health and maybe try to change to something else once in a while. I've had dogs become intolerant to certain things, and also grow out of that intolerance. There's so much going on in a body that we can't always understand the whys, hows or whats.

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Thanks for the advice.

An update: he was fine for a couple of days but yesterday I tried him on minced lamb and chicken mixed with the dry and I had another explosion. I think it was from both ends this time but it's hard to tell as I've known him to produce vomit which looks (and smells) like poo!

I'm therefore thinking it's either chicken that's causing it or possibly combining the dry and mince. I'll try mince only for a few days and post again later next week.

Thanks again for all the advice.

 

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