ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 A judge in California has ruled that a baker didn't have to provide a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage as it violated her beliefs. In a surprising victory for common sense, the judge ruled that the state of California could not coerce the baker to go against her beliefs. The baker had a referral arrangement with another establishment that would gladly provide the service and this was deemed utterly fair! Some of us have argued this for a while and it's genuinely refreshing to see it play out in a legal setting! Well done California! Now about those Second Amendment restrictions... 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 (Un)common sense prevails for once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,927 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 What the f**k have the gays got against bakers? LOL. Always seems to be a f***ing baker they're trying to f**k over in their fight for tyranny... errr, I mean equality. A better outcome than when the same happened this side of the Atlantic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: What the f**k have the gays got against bakers? LOL. Always seems to be a f***ing baker they're trying to f**k over in their fight for tyranny... errr, I mean equality. A better outcome than when the same happened this side of the Atlantic. That's the bit I couldn't get my head around. Who the f*ck goes into a private place of business demanding sh*t?! Even when I disagree with the attitude of the business they have that right on private property, and in this case, she even had a referral system for just this situation. The big surprise here was that it was in California and now there is a legal precedence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, ChrisJones said: That's the bit I couldn't get my head around. Who the f*ck goes into a private place of business demanding sh*t?! Even when I disagree with the attitude of the business they have that right on private property, and in this case, she even had a referral system for just this situation. The big surprise here was that it was in California and now there is a legal precedence. To use an Americanism, she "covered all the bases" - which was the loophole left open by the NI baker. Goes to show that, with a little planning, the soppy, leftie ideology is NOT infallible - even in the bastion of soppy leftishness ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: To use an Americanism, she "covered all the bases" - which was the loophole left open by the NI baker. Goes to show that, with a little planning, the soppy, leftie ideology is NOT infallible - even in the bastion of soppy leftishness ! 2 I still think it's shocking that in NI now you no longer have the right to refuse to serve someone in a private business. I see what they were trying to do but why go for litigation? Why not just go to the literally thousands of other people that couldn't give a sh*t about your private life? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ChrisJones said: I still think it's shocking that in NI now you no longer have the right to refuse to serve someone in a private business. I see what they were trying to do but why go for litigation? Why not just go to the literally thousands of other people that couldn't give a sh*t about your private life? Whatever happened to "we reserve the right to refuse service".........? I remember barmaids and landlords saying "I think you've had enough", doormen saying "not tonight,pal"........these are private premises - as Al Murray's character says, "MY GAFFE, MY RULES " 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 I can't see why they give a monkeys who they're making a cake for - you don't have agree with what they're doing but, when you run a business, money in the till is what you want. That said, it is her business and, she should be able to refuse any custom as she sees fit (I know enough builders that won't work for Indians). ....... Well done to that judge for a common sense decision. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Jonjon79 said: I can't see why they give a monkeys who they're making a cake for - you don't have agree with what they're doing but, when you run a business, money in the till is what you want. I can absolutely see why. I wouldn't bake a cake for a "Remain" function - unless I put a surprise filling in it. It's almost like these people seek out somewhere they aren't going to be welcome so they can make a song and dance about it. Not to mention the attention, drama and possibly compensation. And by "these people" I don't mean gay people. I mean the current crop of people willing to be offended by the slightest thing. If someone wouldn't bake me a cake for whatever reason, my first port of call would be the next baker along the High Street, not my solicitor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,949 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Blackbriar said: Whatever happened to "we reserve the right to refuse service".........? I remember barmaids and landlords saying "I think you've had enough", doormen saying "not tonight,pal"........these are private premises - as Al Murray's character says, "MY GAFFE, MY RULES " we still can do that...without giving a reason good call by the judge ....im suprised though...always thought callifornia to be liberal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 I've got nothing against them personally but, this did have me laughing ............ DENVER, Colorado (WNB) - The Christian owner of a bake shop has been ordered to provide wedding cakes to homosexual couples, after a decision by Colorado's Civil Rights Commission. The owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, Jack Phillips, declined to make a wedding cake for two local rump-wranglers in 2012, who then filed a complaint that led to a legal battle. Despite the order, the Phillip's problems may not be over, as several other gay couples have recently threatened to file complaints against the baker, calling his new 'gay' wedding cake 'offensive.' Walshie, that'd be a cracking remainer cake 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,616 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 the judge got it right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TOMO said: we still can do that...without giving a reason good call by the judge ....im suprised though...always thought callifornia to be liberal When I lived in London I knew a straight (so he says ) guy who worked the door at a gay club a couple of nights a week. His sole job was to make sure straight people didn't get in and "cause trouble." Can you imagine if the situation was reversed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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