Rabid 1,936 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 My mate has the tx200hc, he says it's the best springer he's ever owned, but still wants to smooth it down a bit, reckons it's not nearly the gun he thinks it could be, now he asked me as I know my way around a pcp, but I have no idea about boingers, so what are his best options, short stroke, a drop in kit, ? any ideas or help would be much appreciated as he is a real good lad with not much money but loves getting out with this gun. Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 there a bloody good riffle to start with rabid and only really need re-finishing! too much pre load is what fecks them up and with a good polish of the spring ends and a re grease it'll be sound... ive done the drop in kits in loads of stuff and from my pov there a waste of money, if the power is good then just tidying the internals will improve it but if theres loads of pre-load tell him to ditch the aa piston head and order a vortek one... there mint and will bring the power up and reduce the pl ive been using this grease for the springs for a fair while now and it stays put without spatting and causing dieseling , you'll be able to get it from work 3 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Cheers si, I wondered about a strip and polish up inside, no idea what the pl is like yet, once I have a few ideas to base on I will get him round and we will have a look and see what it's like inside. I have some of that grease in my workshop so no problem there 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,823 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Im with Si on this Rabid Just a little tune and polish will sort it you dont need any drop in kits . and there a peace of pishhhhh to strip Im the other way round mate boingers are no problem but when it comes to pcp,s im fecked lol If your not sure just take a pic before and after you have removed some thing then you have some thing to look back on if you get stuck . works for me any way atvbjimmy 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said: Im with Si on this Rabid Just a little tune and polish will sort it you dont need any drop in kits . and there a peace of pishhhhh to strip Im the other way round mate boingers are no problem but when it comes to pcp,s im fecked lol If your not sure just take a pic before and after you have removed some thing then you have some thing to look back on if you get stuck . works for me any way atvbjimmy Cheers jimmy, am sure it's not difficult, just never worked on one before, what I needed to know is the best way to get it as smooth as possible for him, I don't know anything about kits or Welsh willies ? And top hats....... Starting to sound a lot like common sense now though, no need for all the fangdanglies, a good polish sorts a lot of problems. 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,823 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Si did the one i have and its still as smooth to shoot now and i think we have had it over 2 years now . only had to open her up once to put some grease on the spring but that was down to me using JSB Heavy,s in it (but she loves them lol). I use auto sol on them fit the piston into a drill then use a cloth cover the piston with the auto sol and set it away in the drill wrap the cloth around your fingers and put it on the piston the piston will go black as the auto sol dose its job then change the cloth to a clean one and do it again this will shine it up for you . here are a few pics of before and after atvbjimmy 2 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Nice one jimmy, allays good to see what's what before you start, am looking forward to seeing what sort of quality it's been made. i will say it shoots fair well as it is so not expecting too many issues. 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 There all little bits of nothing that add up rabid... one thing is there sh1t at cutting springs and I’ve had to re shape the majority of the ons I’ve done! 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, si brown said: There all little bits of nothing that add up rabid... one thing is there sh1t at cutting springs and I’ve had to re shape the majority of the ons I’ve done! What do you do, just sand em up with some fine paper Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,563 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Hi Rabid, Have a butchers at this done by Rat Works on my TX 200 HC MK3 .177 My TX is now every bit as accurate as my pcp`s, no ratchet clicking because of the short stroke but I find the lock time and recoil also much improved Hope this helps any. 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 47 minutes ago, mark williams said: Hi Rabid, Have a butchers at this done by Rat Works on my TX 200 HC MK3 .177 My TX is now every bit as accurate as my pcp`s, no ratchet clicking because of the short stroke but I find the lock time and recoil also much improved Hope this helps any. how much do they charge for that mark?! 1 Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,563 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 £140 Si, so not the end of the world. 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, mark williams said: £140 Si, so not the end of the world. Na... thought it would of been way more! still not as cheap as two penny washers:) 2 Quote Link to post
mattwhite 1,993 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 I would love to sit on the fence here but my .177 tx hc was good out of the box. After a polish and fettle of the internals as Si and Jimmy said, it was a lot smoother but then decided to replace the AA spring guide, all washers and spring with a welsh willy kit and it was like bloody silk rabid. No short stroke of the piston just a straight swap of the parts and the difference was measurable by how smooth the cycle was and less twang due to the delrin replacing steel parts so I would say clean it up yourself and drop a kit in pal? Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,563 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Well Si, I can`t comment there but you have seen the results many times over. 1 Quote Link to post
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