Tail Docking Rep Of Ireland

[MOLE265 792]

Is this the same man who was threatening to report a man not long ago

CORRECT.

[Plucky1 1,119]

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

[MOLE265 792]

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

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There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

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are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

: end quote

are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

: end quote

are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

You defending him like!!!!!

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There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

: end quote

are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

You defending him like!!!!!

 

Listen fella I don't know the man from adam.. so what or why would I be defending him for? Im not in this silly THL clique he speaks of..but you seem to think you are! ill give you my take from a man who flicks through this place while getting a shite or when I have 10 mins for a duke...maybe takin me tae at work!

... so all ill say again is he keeps plummer's he admits it ...he sells them..he admits it...he doesn't do much digging with them he admits it...He works them at many different variety of quarry and not a predator pest controllers terrier but seem to be a handy terrier... he posts pics of dogs in good order too me, he also seems to have a good set up... you keep welsh terriers? and are saying they are starting to impress you... while there from a line of non working terriers...show stuff you said! Posted a pic of 1 or maybe 2 in a shed or flat? with a dead fox carcass and all im saying is its still the internet son.

For all I know plucky WM or whatever alias hes using this week is backing up a profile he still could be in a wheelchair for all I know...same as you ... im giving an opinion that's all... f**k if I hadn't of had this doopiaza and nan you may never have got a reply... enjoy bitching ...

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

: end quote

are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

You defending him like!!!!!

Listen fella I don't know the man from adam.. so what or why would I be defending him for? Im not in this silly THL clique he speaks of..but you seem to think you are! ill give you my take from a man who flicks through this place while getting a shite or when I have 10 mins for a duke...maybe takin me tae at work!

... so all ill say again is he keeps plummer's he admits it ...he sells them..he admits it...he doesn't do much digging with them he admits it...He works them at many different variety of quarry and not a predator pest controllers terrier but seem to be a handy terrier... he posts pics of dogs in good order too me, he also seems to have a good set up... you keep welsh terriers? and are saying they are starting to impress you... while there from a line of non working terriers...show stuff you said! Posted a pic of 1 or maybe 2 in a shed or flat? with a dead fox carcass and all im saying is its still the internet son.

For all I know plucky WM or whatever alias hes using this week is backing up a profile he still could be in a wheelchair for all I know...same as you ... im giving an opinion that's all... f**k if I hadn't of had this doopiaza and nan you may never have got a reply... enjoy bitching ...

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of anger on the terrier section these days, the thread was about docking but it seems only patterdale owners can make any comment,LOL's, the section is being fecked by the same old bully boys ganging up,if you want a closed forum why not start one up, this section has been poor for a while because every post gets trolled unless you are in the little "clique", its a shame as there are many that I'm sure would contribute given a fair chance, many of the old decent lads have been driven off by "no-marks" with little or no knowledge of terrierwork, I spoke to a few of the better lads at the "Midland" this year, good posters of decent days digging but were sick of the utter sh*te they were getting, I may not dig much these days but have done my share in the past with many types of terrier, there are many types of terrierwork and all of it should be embraced if any of it is to survive, together we are strong,divided by criticsism then we will fall and there will be none of it for my sons or yours, broaden your outlook for a better future, its a shame that these words will be wasted on the very people on here who will be the detriment and downfall of all terrierwork, Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down whilst never posting anything of themselves or days out, WM

O your such an angel arnt you. anyone wanting to know about your antics only has to look up your post, as I said before your only on here because there a litter due free advertising. If anyone should be removed we all know who it should be lol

 

 

Quote: Mods should be more pro-active banning idiots that spend every post pulling people down

: end quote

are you slagging a man for keeping plummers when you keep welsh terriers? lol..

You defending him like!!!!!

Listen fella I don't know the man from adam.. so what or why would I be defending him for? Im not in this silly THL clique he speaks of..but you seem to think you are! ill give you my take from a man who flicks through this place while getting a shite or when I have 10 mins for a duke...maybe takin me tae at work!

... so all ill say again is he keeps plummer's he admits it ...he sells them..he admits it...he doesn't do much digging with them he admits it...He works them at many different variety of quarry and not a predator pest controllers terrier but seem to be a handy terrier... he posts pics of dogs in good order too me, he also seems to have a good set up... you keep welsh terriers? and are saying they are starting to impress you... while there from a line of non working terriers...show stuff you said! Posted a pic of 1 or maybe 2 in a shed or flat? with a dead fox carcass and all im saying is its still the internet son.

For all I know plucky WM or whatever alias hes using this week is backing up a profile he still could be in a wheelchair for all I know...same as you ... im giving an opinion that's all... f**k if I hadn't of had this doopiaza and nan you may never have got a reply... enjoy bitching ...

 

No bitching here my good friend, the man is a wrong yin in my eyes there's always an agenda to all of his posts. Yep I have two welsh terriers and they are doing what I want so far, enjoy your dopiaza and nan I'm a madras and chapati man myself.

Ps I'm away tae halfords tomorrow for some WD40 to oil the wheels on my wheelchair. Lol.

[Plucky1 1,119]

Mole265, I assure you there is no agenda to any of my posts, I used to post of all sorts of days out on this forum, I was then told by lads that have never seen my dogs working that Plummers are this and Plummers are that even after seeing pics of them actually doing it !!! I took some lads out and let them make their own minds up about them and many took a pup when I bred the terrier they seen working, beyond that I don't actually see there is more I could of done. I have always vehemently defended myself from criticism and they are the same crowd that jump on the bandwagon every time I post, it has become boringly predictable and expected, they are all lads I have shot down in the past with hard facts and pics.

You talk of an agenda, my only agenda has been to let other lads see they are a decent all-round dog that can do anything if time is put into them, they are not a balls out digging dog although I have seen many that have been used that way, if you took off the blinkers you may realise different dogs for different jobs, the Plummer terrier has suffered from 20 yrs of "Brian Plummer" syndrome, he encouraged the clubs (who got behind him) to sell to families of middle class ownership, most non-working huge dogs, the breeders were heavily biased by women and men that have never worked a terrier to ground, however a small element like myself were gifted some foundation stock in the late 70's and continued to work them to ground, Bill Mossman produced a line that were well known for groundwork but became to heavily inbred and were dog aggressive by the lad that took them over Derek Palmer (REMLAP),in the 80's I kept many other types of terrier(Nuttall,Hardie,etc) and the Plummer was still known as a Russell,they only weighed 8-10 lb and were a handy tool to have if you wanted a terrier that could fly around an earth forcing a bolt, the type I keep now is very similar and can be dug to when something decides its staying,most lads hate Plummers because of either him or the knob heads you see trailing them around at shows,I am no different to many of you lads when I see what should of been a decent terrier with no signs of work at a show or gamefair, I have never showed a terrier or sold one to anybody on this site so I am not trying to self promote my line, the difference between me and most terrier men on here is that I have spent many years digging/bolting with all types, I chose to keep only Plummers and improve on what I had around when the the writing was on the wall for taking dogs out that were heavily marked up and the rest is history, these are my terriers of choice, they suit me and they do not get a second look when out and being good on the eye they are popular, I try to put every surplus pup in a working home and I see no wrong in it, I will put a thread up later tonight when the idiots are all "glued up" or high on weed to save anymore on this thread then you can sling the mud directly at me, LOL's,WM

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As you all know I breed "REDLINE" Plummer terriers, probably 2 or 3 litters a year for the past 5 yrs or so, my vet docks and dew claws for a tenner a pup and I have to say its the best money I spend, I have had the RSPCA at my door from pups I sold to lads in Swansea,Liverpool and Scotland, its easy for me as I just give them his name and address,phone number,etc and thats the end of it, like the rest of you boys I docked my own since the late 70's without any problems to the pups but its just not worth taking a chance for the small amount it costs getting it done properly, the only issue I have had with my vet is that left to him he would do a very short dock whereas I like a longer dock, I mark where I want them cutting and thats it,hassle free, WM

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So you just breed for £££ then ?

3 litters a year for last 5 years, Ching Ching.

He ain't trying to better the Plummer terrier.

He only wants to line his pockets.

That's the sad reality of puppy farms.

15 litters in 36 months, that's an average(ish) litter every 8 or 9 weeks, he's a canine factory.

That's some god damn awful maths ?

[MOLE265 792]

Mole265, I assure you there is no agenda to any of my posts, I used to post of all sorts of days out on this forum, I was then told by lads that have never seen my dogs working that Plummers are this and Plummers are that even after seeing pics of them actually doing it !!! I took some lads out and let them make their own minds up about them and many took a pup when I bred the terrier they seen working, beyond that I don't actually see there is more I could of done. I have always vehemently defended myself from criticism and they are the same crowd that jump on the bandwagon every time I post, it has become boringly predictable and expected, they are all lads I have shot down in the past with hard facts and pics.

You talk of an agenda, my only agenda has been to let other lads see they are a decent all-round dog that can do anything if time is put into them, they are not a balls out digging dog although I have seen many that have been used that way, if you took off the blinkers you may realise different dogs for different jobs, the Plummer terrier has suffered from 20 yrs of "Brian Plummer" syndrome, he encouraged the clubs (who got behind him) to sell to families of middle class ownership, most non-working huge dogs, the breeders were heavily biased by women and men that have never worked a terrier to ground, however a small element like myself were gifted some foundation stock in the late 70's and continued to work them to ground, Bill Mossman produced a line that were well known for groundwork but became to heavily inbred and were dog aggressive by the lad that took them over Derek Palmer (REMLAP),in the 80's I kept many other types of terrier(Nuttall,Hardie,etc) and the Plummer was still known as a Russell,they only weighed 8-10 lb and were a handy tool to have if you wanted a terrier that could fly around an earth forcing a bolt, the type I keep now is very similar and can be dug to when something decides its staying,most lads hate Plummers because of either him or the knob heads you see trailing them around at shows,I am no different to many of you lads when I see what should of been a decent terrier with no signs of work at a show or gamefair, I have never showed a terrier or sold one to anybody on this site so I am not trying to self promote my line, the difference between me and most terrier men on here is that I have spent many years digging/bolting with all types, I chose to keep only Plummers and improve on what I had around when the the writing was on the wall for taking dogs out that were heavily marked up and the rest is history, these are my terriers of choice, they suit me and they do not get a second look when out and being good on the eye they are popular, I try to put every surplus pup in a working home and I see no wrong in it, I will put a thread up later tonight when the idiots are all "glued up" or high on weed to save anymore on this thread then you can sling the mud directly at me, LOL's,WM

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[king 11,664]

Mole265, I assure you there is no agenda to any of my posts, I used to post of all sorts of days out on this forum, I was then told by lads that have never seen my dogs working that Plummers are this and Plummers are that even after seeing pics of them actually doing it !!! I took some lads out and let them make their own minds up about them and many took a pup when I bred the terrier they seen working, beyond that I don't actually see there is more I could of done. I have always vehemently defended myself from criticism and they are the same crowd that jump on the bandwagon every time I post, it has become boringly predictable and expected, they are all lads I have shot down in the past with hard facts and pics.

You talk of an agenda, my only agenda has been to let other lads see they are a decent all-round dog that can do anything if time is put into them, they are not a balls out digging dog although I have seen many that have been used that way, if you took off the blinkers you may realise different dogs for different jobs, the Plummer terrier has suffered from 20 yrs of "Brian Plummer" syndrome, he encouraged the clubs (who got behind him) to sell to families of middle class ownership, most non-working huge dogs, the breeders were heavily biased by women and men that have never worked a terrier to ground, however a small element like myself were gifted some foundation stock in the late 70's and continued to work them to ground, Bill Mossman produced a line that were well known for groundwork but became to heavily inbred and were dog aggressive by the lad that took them over Derek Palmer (REMLAP),in the 80's I kept many other types of terrier(Nuttall,Hardie,etc) and the Plummer was still known as a Russell,they only weighed 8-10 lb and were a handy tool to have if you wanted a terrier that could fly around an earth forcing a bolt, the type I keep now is very similar and can be dug to when something decides its staying,most lads hate Plummers because of either him or the knob heads you see trailing them around at shows,I am no different to many of you lads when I see what should of been a decent terrier with no signs of work at a show or gamefair, I have never showed a terrier or sold one to anybody on this site so I am not trying to self promote my line, the difference between me and most terrier men on here is that I have spent many years digging/bolting with all types, I chose to keep only Plummers and improve on what I had around when the the writing was on the wall for taking dogs out that were heavily marked up and the rest is history, these are my terriers of choice, they suit me and they do not get a second look when out and being good on the eye they are popular, I try to put every surplus pup in a working home and I see no wrong in it, I will put a thread up later tonight when the idiots are all "glued up" or high on weed to save anymore on this thread then you can sling the mud directly at me, LOL's,WM

Have you had a few dabs of whizz.

You sprout more shit than plummer.

[Mary 352]

 

 

 

 

 

As you all know I breed "REDLINE" Plummer terriers, probably 2 or 3 litters a year for the past 5 yrs or so, my vet docks and dew claws for a tenner a pup and I have to say its the best money I spend, I have had the RSPCA at my door from pups I sold to lads in Swansea,Liverpool and Scotland, its easy for me as I just give them his name and address,phone number,etc and thats the end of it, like the rest of you boys I docked my own since the late 70's without any problems to the pups but its just not worth taking a chance for the small amount it costs getting it done properly, the only issue I have had with my vet is that left to him he would do a very short dock whereas I like a longer dock, I mark where I want them cutting and thats it,hassle free, WM

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So you just breed for £££ then ?

3 litters a year for last 5 years, Ching Ching.

He ain't trying to better the Plummer terrier.

He only wants to line his pockets.

That's the sad reality of puppy farms.

15 litters in 36 months, that's an average(ish) litter every 8 or 9 weeks, he's a canine factory.

That's some god damn awful maths ?

I did say "ish", 36 months(4 weeks in a month) =144 weeks divided by 15 litters is exactly 9.6 weeks, so wasn't far off.

[jiggy 3,207]

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you all know I breed "REDLINE" Plummer terriers, probably 2 or 3 litters a year for the past 5 yrs or so, my vet docks and dew claws for a tenner a pup and I have to say its the best money I spend, I have had the RSPCA at my door from pups I sold to lads in Swansea,Liverpool and Scotland, its easy for me as I just give them his name and address,phone number,etc and thats the end of it, like the rest of you boys I docked my own since the late 70's without any problems to the pups but its just not worth taking a chance for the small amount it costs getting it done properly, the only issue I have had with my vet is that left to him he would do a very short dock whereas I like a longer dock, I mark where I want them cutting and thats it,hassle free, WM

DSC_0006 2.JPG

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So you just breed for £££ then ?

3 litters a year for last 5 years, Ching Ching.

He ain't trying to better the Plummer terrier.

He only wants to line his pockets.

That's the sad reality of puppy farms.

15 litters in 36 months, that's an average(ish) litter every 8 or 9 weeks, he's a canine factory.

That's some god damn awful maths ?

I did say "ish", 36 months(4 weeks in a month) =144 weeks divided by 15 litters is exactly 9.6 weeks, so wasn't far off.

there is more than 4 weeks in most months so there is 156 weeks in 3 years (36 months) A litter every 10.4 weeks when there's 52 weeks in a year multiplied by 3. Maths lesson 2 will be at 4pm tomorrow can all students please attend.?