Bulls In Barcelona

[DIDO.1 22,865]

I'm not trying to reopen the bullfighting discussion (which was very intelligent and respectful last time actually) but it's interesting to note that the bullfighting ban in Barcelona and Catalonia has just been ruled unlawful. Bullfighting was protected as part of cultural heritage in two separate acts of parliament...so the ban can't stand up!

 

If only we could protect our right to hunt in the same way!

[dodger 3,594]

Good point mate n would've made things a whole lot easier for us, would it be to late to protect what's left now in some way as if and when labour get in again surely they'l be out to destroy anything we've fought to hang onto and have left..

[mushroom 14,245]

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Let's see them get that legislation past the Catalans then.

[sussex 5,803]

Good point mate n would've made things a whole lot easier for us, would it be to late to protect what's left now in some way as if and when labour get in again surely they'l be out to destroy anything we've fought to hang onto and have left..

 

State of the Labour Party it should give us a tidy few years to work on ...but can you see any goverment protecting our hunting and shooting rights in law as a cultural heritage...would never happen unfortunately..

[BGD 6,437]

The Tories haven't even got the appetite to repeal the hunting ban so the the idea that they would bring in further protections of our right to hunt is complete fantasy. Besides any protection that was brought in could be just as easily removed by a future government that wanted to ban hunting.

[DIDO.1 22,865]

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Let's see them get that legislation past the Catalans then.

I think the situation is.... and you may possibly correct me....there is only one bullring really left in Catalonia, the monumental, it's illegal to ban bullfights but to put on a bullfight you would need to get it past the mayor, who is an anti. So....the owners of the ring now need to apply...which will be rejected....then it's back to court.

 

Personally I think it's not an anti thing, it's political, like hunting and the snp. Bullfighting is out of place in Catalonia and has been for 50 years (400 season tickets compared to 19,000 in Madrid) so let the feckers go....but maybe it's like keeping individual hunts going, we got to keep fighting for every inch....the Spaniards certainly do...only the ban in Quito now to over turn, which looks likely as well

[DIDO.1 22,865]

The Tories haven't even got the appetite to repeal the hunting ban so the the idea that they would bring in further protections of our right to hunt is complete fantasy. Besides any protection that was brought in could be just as easily removed by a future government that wanted to ban hunting.

The Tories do have the appetite actually...believe me the bill is ready to role....it would still have to be voted on and at present the snp would just loose it for us.

[BGD 6,437]

 

The Tories haven't even got the appetite to repeal the hunting ban so the the idea that they would bring in further protections of our right to hunt is complete fantasy. Besides any protection that was brought in could be just as easily removed by a future government that wanted to ban hunting.

The Tories do have the appetite actually...believe me the bill is ready to role....it would still have to be voted on and at present the snp would just loose it for us.

The Tories hold a majority in the HoC, if they whipped to vote for the bill it would pass. The SNP can only have an effect on the passing of the bill because the Tories refuse to whip for it and instead would allow a free vote because they don't actually have the appetite to repeal the act and the free vote was only put in the manifesto to pander to a small minority of their supporters.

[ftm 3,357]

more chance of a tory gvmnt repealing it than a left wing namby pamby labour party

[mushroom 14,245]

 

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Let's see them get that legislation past the Catalans then.

I think the situation is.... and you may possibly correct me....there is only one bullring really left in Catalonia, the monumental, it's illegal to ban bullfights but to put on a bullfight you would need to get it past the mayor, who is an anti. So....the owners of the ring now need to apply...which will be rejected....then it's back to court.

 

Personally I think it's not an anti thing, it's political, like hunting and the snp. Bullfighting is out of place in Catalonia and has been for 50 years (400 season tickets compared to 19,000 in Madrid) so let the feckers go....but maybe it's like keeping individual hunts going, we got to keep fighting for every inch....the Spaniards certainly do...only the ban in Quito now to over turn, which looks likely as well

Bans will be overturned, the streets will be ablaze and the world will keep turning... its the Spanish way.

 

As for allowing it; the Catalans hate it and anti it for one reason.. they see it as a Spanish custom, not Catalan

[Lenmcharristar 10,370]

 

 

 

Let's see them get that legislation past the Catalans then.

I think the situation is.... and you may possibly correct me....there is only one bullring really left in Catalonia, the monumental, it's illegal to ban bullfights but to put on a bullfight you would need to get it past the mayor, who is an anti. So....the owners of the ring now need to apply...which will be rejected....then it's back to court.

Personally I think it's not an anti thing, it's political, like hunting and the snp. Bullfighting is out of place in Catalonia and has been for 50 years (400 season tickets compared to 19,000 in Madrid) so let the feckers go....but maybe it's like keeping individual hunts going, we got to keep fighting for every inch....the Spaniards certainly do...only the ban in Quito now to over turn, which looks likely as well

Bans will be overturned, the streets will be ablaze and the world will keep turning... its the Spanish way.

As for allowing it; the Catalans hate it and anti it for one reason.. they see it as a Spanish custom, not Catalan

whats the difference between Spanish and Catalans?

[mushroom 14,245]

Same as Welsh and Scottish. That have a separate language. Historically they were always part of the northern kingdom of Aragon, the same who fought and overthrew the Muslim occupation of the Iberian peninsula. They fight for independence and have since their language and writing was suppressed and their cities and towns destroyed, people lined up in the streets of BCN and shot by Franco and his men. There is a plaza here where the bullet holes still remain. You can even see when the executors didn't want to kill because the lines of bullets are far to high to kill a human.

 

The messed up thing is bullfighting is just as much in their culture as it is in the Spanish but just like the scots they'll hapily cut their nose off to spite the face ?