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Good wee watch that allways found it interesting that wolves have a natural hatred for fox remember seeing a vid years ago of them chasing them down and killing them if I remember rightly it was in the snow and they didn't even eat the fox.

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Good wee watch that allways found it interesting that wolves have a natural hatred for fox remember seeing a vid years ago of them chasing them down and killing them if I remember rightly it was in the snow and they didn't even eat the fox.

You talking about the Fox or the Coyote?

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My fellow hunters.

 

I'll grant wolves do change the behavior of other animals. Mostly by killing and maybe eating them. I'll also grant that too many browsing animals (those in the video are elk not deer by they way) can decimate the landscape. But wolves in that region have decimated the huntable game just as they have done here in Northern Michigan. One thing we did notice after the wolves became prevalent was that white tailed deer who had always traveled into the wind. Began traveling with the wind at their back so they could wind wolves stalking them as well as spotting them laying in ambush ahead. Now, had the deer stuck around this might have proven to be an advantage for hunters. But they didn't.

 

I tend to believe the decrease in meandering by streams and rivers is more the result of tremendous droughts in the area which also impacts the health of the browsing and grazing animals. So, we have the reintroduction of wolves which most likely should not have occurred along with hard conditions brought about by drought. A one-two punch as it were for the elk and buffalo.

 

I'd also like to expand on what the poster above said. Wolves do not tolerate other predators in their area. Whether they are other wolves, mountain lions, coyote, fox, bears, or our hunting dogs.

 

If the government had asked me. I would have said I think having some wolves around could be an advantage but having too many is a recipe for disaster as far as wildlife and hunting goes. Our efforts to control the wolf population have met with resistance from advocacy groups ( like the ones who made this video) with deep pockets who find advocate minded judges to throw up baseless road block that fly in the face of observed, and proven science.

 

It's long I know, thanks for reading it.

 

ATB

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My fellow hunters.

 

I'll grant wolves do change the behavior of other animals. Mostly by killing and maybe eating them. I'll also grant that too many browsing animals (those in the video are elk not deer by they way) can decimate the landscape. But wolves in that region have decimated the huntable game just as they have done here in Northern Michigan. One thing we did notice after the wolves became prevalent was that white tailed deer who had always traveled into the wind. Began traveling with the wind at their back so they could wind wolves stalking them as well as spotting them laying in ambush ahead. Now, had the deer stuck around this might have proven to be an advantage for hunters. But they didn't.

 

I tend to believe the decrease in meandering by streams and rivers is more the result of tremendous droughts in the area which also impacts the health of the browsing and grazing animals. So, we have the reintroduction of wolves which most likely should not have occurred along with hard conditions brought about by drought. A one-two punch as it were for the elk and buffalo.

 

I'd also like to expand on what the poster above said. Wolves do not tolerate other predators in their area. Whether they are other wolves, mountain lions, coyote, fox, bears, or our hunting dogs.

 

If the government had asked me. I would have said I think having some wolves around could be an advantage but having too many is a recipe for disaster as far as wildlife and hunting goes. Our efforts to control the wolf population have met with resistance from advocacy groups ( like the ones who made this video) with deep pockets who find advocate minded judges to throw up baseless road block that fly in the face of observed, and proven science.

 

It's long I know, thanks for reading it.

 

ATB

The Elk is a known as a Deer over the pond here in the UK, in Europe though the Moose is known as the Elk.

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My fellow hunters.

 

I'll grant wolves do change the behavior of other animals. Mostly by killing and maybe eating them. I'll also grant that too many browsing animals (those in the video are elk not deer by they way) can decimate the landscape. But wolves in that region have decimated the huntable game just as they have done here in Northern Michigan. One thing we did notice after the wolves became prevalent was that white tailed deer who had always traveled into the wind. Began traveling with the wind at their back so they could wind wolves stalking them as well as spotting them laying in ambush ahead. Now, had the deer stuck around this might have proven to be an advantage for hunters. But they didn't.

 

I tend to believe the decrease in meandering by streams and rivers is more the result of tremendous droughts in the area which also impacts the health of the browsing and grazing animals. So, we have the reintroduction of wolves which most likely should not have occurred along with hard conditions brought about by drought. A one-two punch as it were for the elk and buffalo.

 

I'd also like to expand on what the poster above said. Wolves do not tolerate other predators in their area. Whether they are other wolves, mountain lions, coyote, fox, bears, or our hunting dogs.

 

If the government had asked me. I would have said I think having some wolves around could be an advantage but having too many is a recipe for disaster as far as wildlife and hunting goes. Our efforts to control the wolf population have met with resistance from advocacy groups ( like the ones who made this video) with deep pockets who find advocate minded judges to throw up baseless road block that fly in the face of observed, and proven science.

 

It's long I know, thanks for reading it.

 

ATB

The Elk is a known as a Deer over the pond here in the UK, in Europe though the Moose is known as the Elk.

 

Well, as long as your not drinking warm beer.

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