king 12,038 Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Doom and gloom.i can't be doing with that. I've met a few lads in my life. And that's all they talk about fecking doom and gloom. You can feel it pulling you down. Negative thoughts ain't any good to man or beast. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,687 Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I'm not sure that I believe what's been claimed here. If it's true then I don't think it's possible that I could feel any more horrified by what these cowardly pigs did anyway, but if these claims are false then why the fcuk would anyone want to make them, and inflict even more pain on the victim's families? I don't get why the French authorities would want to 'cover it up'. The French are battling muslim terrorists all over and have suffered more than any other European country at the hands of these animals. Maybe someone can enlighten me? http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/ I think it's quite obvious,look what they had to do to keep Front Nationale out of power last time. They probably want to keep some illusion of democracy next time. If the entire political class closes ranks against FN,it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they'd use their influence in other ways too. Or possibly the security services wanting to keep any blow back manageable. I can understand out of sensitivity to the victims, and in the days immediately after when all the facts weren't yet established, that all the horrific detail wouldn't be handed to the media to report. But in this enquiry that happened months later the truth should be laid bare, and these claims seem to be innaccurate or at least unsubstantiated. Did they really happen? And if they did, how would it make any difference to how people felt about those that slaughtered 130 on the night? If I were being cynical I'd say that it appears like a squalid attempt by some factions to squeeze political mileage out of this tragic event. If proved so, it would have the exact opposite to the desired effect surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure that I believe what's been claimed here. If it's true then I don't think it's possible that I could feel any more horrified by what these cowardly pigs did anyway, but if these claims are false then why the fcuk would anyone want to make them, and inflict even more pain on the victim's families? I don't get why the French authorities would want to 'cover it up'. The French are battling muslim terrorists all over and have suffered more than any other European country at the hands of these animals. Maybe someone can enlighten me? http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/ I think it's quite obvious,look what they had to do to keep Front Nationale out of power last time. They probably want to keep some illusion of democracy next time. If the entire political class closes ranks against FN,it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they'd use their influence in other ways too. Or possibly the security services wanting to keep any blow back manageable. I can understand out of sensitivity to the victims, and in the days immediately after when all the facts weren't yet established, that all the horrific detail wouldn't be handed to the media to report. But in this enquiry that happened months later the truth should be laid bare, and these claims seem to be innaccurate or at least unsubstantiated. Did they really happen? And if they did, how would it make any difference to how people felt about those that slaughtered 130 on the night? If I were being cynical I'd say that it appears like a squalid attempt by some factions to squeeze political mileage out of this tragic event. If proved so, it would have the exact opposite to the desired effect surely? Why would the liberal/socialist establishment want more millage out of this? They're trying to down play these events,they run diametrically opposed to the multi-cult dream they hold so dear. This leak in terms of the effect it has on the public is huge,maybe as big as another large scale attack in itself,but only slightly bigger imo than if the findings were released when found. It will in all likelihood weaken the establishments grip on power. But the security services may have been involved and suppressed it fearing attacks on extremist's mosques etc,plots to do so have been uncovered since and if even one was successful they'd have a lot more on their plate than they can deal with imo. Edited July 17, 2016 by neems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,687 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm not sure that I believe what's been claimed here. If it's true then I don't think it's possible that I could feel any more horrified by what these cowardly pigs did anyway, but if these claims are false then why the fcuk would anyone want to make them, and inflict even more pain on the victim's families? I don't get why the French authorities would want to 'cover it up'. The French are battling muslim terrorists all over and have suffered more than any other European country at the hands of these animals. Maybe someone can enlighten me? http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-bataclan-victims/ I think it's quite obvious,look what they had to do to keep Front Nationale out of power last time. They probably want to keep some illusion of democracy next time. If the entire political class closes ranks against FN,it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they'd use their influence in other ways too. Or possibly the security services wanting to keep any blow back manageable. I can understand out of sensitivity to the victims, and in the days immediately after when all the facts weren't yet established, that all the horrific detail wouldn't be handed to the media to report. But in this enquiry that happened months later the truth should be laid bare, and these claims seem to be innaccurate or at least unsubstantiated. Did they really happen? And if they did, how would it make any difference to how people felt about those that slaughtered 130 on the night?If I were being cynical I'd say that it appears like a squalid attempt by some factions to squeeze political mileage out of this tragic event. If proved so, it would have the exact opposite to the desired effect surely? Why would the liberal/socialist establishment want more millage out of this? They're trying to down play these events,they run diametrically opposed to the multi-cult dream they hold so dear. This leak in terms of the effect it has on the public is huge,maybe as big as another large scale attack in itself,but only slightly bigger imo than if the findings were released when found. It will in all likelihood weaken the establishments grip on power. But the security services may have been involved and suppressed it fearing attacks on extremist's mosques etc,plots to do so have been uncovered since and if even one was successful they'd have a lot more on their plate than they can deal with imo. Mileage not for the 'liberal/socialist establishment' but for their hard right opposition. They stand to gain if it's shown that the authorities deliberately 'hid' the truth. The crux is whether or not the Heatstreet article (which appears to be the source) is actually factual. I'm not as yet convinced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 RaHoWa is just around the corner, for reals this time lads!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 The more hear about Islamic State, the less I like them ! And WTF is RaHoWa ? A resort in Hawaii ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,939 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 The more hear about Islamic State, the less I like them ! And WTF is RaHoWa ? A resort in Hawaii ? that made me laff good one!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Abbreviation, similar to TEOTWAWKI. Actually, strike 'similar' and put 'exactly the same thing'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Mileage not for the 'liberal/socialist establishment' but for their hard right opposition. They stand to gain if it's shown that the authorities deliberately 'hid' the truth. The crux is whether or not the Heatstreet article (which appears to be the source) is actually factual. I'm not as yet convinced. If it's fake then that'll come out sooner or later and blow up in someone's face. I think it's a bit far fetched that a powerless FN have infiltrated the liberal establishment and hidden these details,they'd want them out ASAP,all over the west we're not far away from extreme and draconian hate speech laws being implemented. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Abbreviation, similar to TEOTWAWKI. Actually, strike 'similar' and put 'exactly the same thing'. See, know that one - End Of The World As We Know It - but when I was in the Boy's Brigade, I failed the Obersturmfuhrer badge, so I've never heard of RaHoWa ! I'm just gonna Google it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Racial Holy War !?! Is that it ?? OMG ! ROFLMFAO !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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