Gun Cabinet

[bobafet 30]

Can you keep firearms in a static caravan

[Alsone 789]

Provided you comply with the safekeeping requirements and they pass inspection to the satisfaction of the local plod, you can keep them anywhere. There are people who keep / have kept them in caravans before.

 

Taken from the Firearms Security Handbook 2005 (Home Office):

 

 

Mobile Homes & Static Caravan Units

2.25 The unit should be site fixed or any wheels and towing assemblies removed or disabled to
prevent its immediate removal.

2.26 Where there is doubt about the fixture, supplementary anchorage with industrial ground
anchors, locking plates or security chains should be used.

2.27 The area between the ground level and underside should either be enclosed with secure
cladding, or the area giving access to that part of the chassis securing the cabinet should be
protected to prevent unauthorised access to that area.

2.28 A cabinet to BS7558 or better, or a commercial safe should be used in dwellings of this
type. Ideally (because of the construction of some mobile homes) cabinets of heavier
construction may be warranted or a dual layer system to protect the area of installation. When
considering installing heavier cabinets or safes the load bearing capacity of these structures must
be considered.

2.29 The cabinet should be located in a position making attack on it difficult.

2.30 The cabinet should be concealed in an area which is not easily/normally accessed (eg inside
fitted lockers).

2.31 The cabinet should have the maximum number of its anchorage points attached to the
chassis of the unit. The blind heads of any fixings should be outside, with the threaded nut within
the cabinet. It may be prudent to have the fixing points welded to the chassis.

2.32 Alloy chassis require special consideration. If the structure is in doubt the provision of
bearing plates not less than 4mm thick and large enough to span several adjoining chassis
members can be fitted. Alternatively, the below method can be utilised.

2.33 Where the chassis is not substantial, a concrete pad containing securing bolts to attach to
the security device should be made underneath the unit.

2.34 Industrial ground anchors can also be adapted for this purpose. These should have a
protective enclosure to frustrate access from outside (see paragraph 2.27).

2.35 An intruder alarm should be considered the primary method of adding security to such
premises.

 

I do have some doubts though if the plod would be happy about you keeping them in a static caravan if it was one in which you weren't normally resident (and you wanted to leave the guns in your absence), or if it was very isolated.

 

For general considerations, see the guide under general principles.

[The one 8,585]

I would of said No as a guy i know got fcuked when his rimmy was stolen from a cabinet in his mobile home at a fishery

[bobafet 30]

Thanks for the replies, my friend is looking at buying a plot to build on and live in a static for a bit, looks like he may need to keep them at mine and get the Feo to have a look when he's set up, thanks again..

[foxtrotoscar 35]

I believe you can, but be ready for a hard time! Concrete base/block under the caravan to bolt the cabinet to and 24/7 CCTV. Seems harsh but owning a firearm is a responsibility we need to accept can be a ball-ache at times!

the police by default will likely say no! But there will be someone in your county doing the very same thing, and that's the precedent you need if they kick off. I know of a couple people keeping them on barges after the police initially said "No" but the hoops get pretty high to jump through, be warned!

Edited June 15, 2016 by foxtrotoscar

[Rabid 1,936]

It's really down to each individual force what they first say, I know of people who have kept them in caravans, and I have heard of people been refused them for exactly that reason.

 

However, you can make them secure, and it would be worth speaking to the licensing department for the area concerned, it's not an instant no though

[sussex 5,803]

Yes mate you can , they will require it to be bolted to the chassis . That's what I had to do when I lived in a static while I converted my barn .Its a bit awkward because it's laying down but it gets you by ..you best check with your local force ..

[Alsone 789]

I would of said No as a guy i know got fcuked when his rimmy was stolen from a cabinet in his mobile home at a fishery

 

Not saying it didn't happen, but it makes you wonder if the guy got it approved first or simply installed a cabinet in a van as a place away from home to store his weapons. I fail to see how the police could successfully prosecute you or revoke your licence for failed security arrangements if they had approved them.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

Reading those guidelines, it looks like the realistic answer is "No, you can't !"

[CharlieT 32]

Reading those guidelines, it looks like the realistic answer is "No, you can't !"

 

Can't really understand why you say that. The Home Office Firearms Security Handbook clearly sets out what are acceptable security measures.

 

There are plenty of firearms owners who live in caravans.

[Deker 3,478]

 

Reading those guidelines, it looks like the realistic answer is "No, you can't !"

 

Can't really understand why you say that. The Home Office Firearms Security Handbook clearly sets out what are acceptable security measures.

 

There are plenty of firearms owners who live in caravans.

 

 

As CC, it is certainly possible but a tad harder than for most conventional homes.

 

[sussex 5,803]

Reading those guidelines, it looks like the realistic answer is "No, you can't !"

Not so B , I had my cabinet in my static caravan for 3 years ...