Boxing At The Weekend...

[mC HULL 18,147]

7 minutes ago, TOMO said:

You could be right maybe they all used PED..who knows ...but let's not forget most fighters cut weight to fight ....which I think should be outlawed..but that's another conversation...so if those guys that were fighting at cruiser weight were cutting 10...12 lb....means they were over 200lb naturally and were probably that in the ring on fight night...so being heavyweight wasn't out the question 

Could be mate for the ones cutting but its the muscle they have id say its a give away like bellew put weight on but wasn't all muscle compared to.say rjj moving from middle to.heavy paquiou David haye usyk but just what I think you've been around it alot more weights etc what's your opinion id say 90 percent at something even if its test at the higher levels which is allowed anyway 

[pesky1972 5,862]

On 21/02/2026 at 11:07, mC HULL said:

? You can't be that naive lol 

Your telling me you think usyk or haye or  holyfield rjj etc just banged on 2 stone of muscle while still.doing cardio heavy at 30 ? 

Do men really think benn or firys a cheat or canelo but dont think usyk.or aj or itauma aint ? Lol

 

I don’t think I’m naive.., but then that’s what someone who’s naive would say

I don’t believe all cheats get caught, but nor do I believe that means every fighter is cheating. Usyk fought Bellew at cruiser, and made weight at around 198lb. Fight day he’d likely been 210lb at least. When he fought Fury (by now well into his thirties) he was 226lb.., where obviously no cutting for weight was needed, so guessing he’d have fought around that. I don’t think that’s even suspect. 

The weight gain and obvious physical change in guys like Haye, Holyfield etc. was obvious, but weight and muscle mass can be gained without cheating…, but usually to the detriment of performance.., i.e. Haye lost a lot moving up, and came up well short in the end.
Fury got caught taking nandralone, not because he needed to get bigger but because he was in awe of AJ’s physique and had low self esteem. But he did get caught, and that to me is the crucial bit.

[mC HULL 18,147]

12 minutes ago, pesky1972 said:

I don’t think I’m naive.., but then that’s what someone who’s naive would say

I don’t believe all cheats get caught, but nor do I believe that means every fighter is cheating. Usyk fought Bellew at cruiser, and made weight at around 198lb. Fight day he’d likely been 210lb at least. When he fought Fury (by now well into his thirties) he was 226lb.., where obviously no cutting for weight was needed, so guessing he’d have fought around that. I don’t think that’s even suspect. 

The weight gain and obvious physical change in guys like Haye, Holyfield etc. was obvious, but weight and muscle mass can be gained without cheating…, but usually to the detriment of performance.., i.e. Haye lost a lot moving up, and came up well short in the end.
Fury got caught taking nandralone, not because he needed to get bigger but because he was in awe of AJ’s physique and had low self esteem. But he did get caught, and that to me is the crucial bit.

What i mean is you not putting a stone a stone and half of pure muscle on at 34 while swimming miles running sparring having quality cardio if your not mate its impossible I think 

Fury was taking nandrslone before aj was on the scene really klitschko times in his best shape id say 

Deca is used loads lads will.expalin what it does I think.its helping in recover muscle and joints 

 

They all.do.it mate I dont think.about it hold it against em its a level.playing field 

[TOMO 30,303]

4 hours ago, mC HULL said:

Could be mate for the ones cutting but its the muscle they have id say its a give away like bellew put weight on but wasn't all muscle compared to.say rjj moving from middle to.heavy paquiou David haye usyk but just what I think you've been around it alot more weights etc what's your opinion id say 90 percent at something even if its test at the higher levels which is allowed anyway 

There's loads of different things that can be  performance enhancing.....and let's be honest if your a professional athlete with big money on the line the temptation to use things to give you an edge must be huge ..

I think it's ironic that in a few months there's an event called the enhanced games...where athletes using gear will be competing in several disciplines...let's be honest most professional sport is awash with PED use

[gnasher16 31,843]

21 hours ago, mC HULL said:

Could be mate for the ones cutting but its the muscle they have id say its a give away like bellew put weight on but wasn't all muscle compared to.say rjj moving from middle to.heavy paquiou David haye usyk but just what I think you've been around it alot more weights etc what's your opinion id say 90 percent at something even if its test at the higher levels which is allowed anyway 

No its not.

[gnasher16 31,843]

On 21/02/2026 at 09:35, downsouth said:

Does seve hearn right for standing by a drugs cheat when he'd slate anyone else that got caught if they weren't with matchroom 

What if he knew/believed he hadnt cheated ?.....bin him regardless ?

[gnasher16 31,843]

On 21/02/2026 at 09:53, Councilestatekid said:

Think hearn hit nail on head when he said how many ufc fighters are now goin to be pissed off when whites chucking 20x the money there getting to the boxers. Why I think he's sayin he'll start his own belts that's so he can control it all like ufc I can't see it takin off can see alot of ufc or ex ufc fighters goin into his boxin to make cards up

Id love to see Matchroom make a move into the Ufc now......might be the only move for them.....whats the old saying " if someone plays dirty then you have to play dirtier "

[mC HULL 18,147]

12 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

No its not.

What's not ? 

Test levels they can be 4 times the normal mans can't they ? 

[gnasher16 31,843]

On 18/02/2026 at 13:08, mC HULL said:

How.long was you a pro for gnash ? 

Did you have a winning record ?

Who's the best you fought or sparred 

About 7 years....won a few more than i lost but didnt set the world alight and never fought any big names of the day but made a nice little living at the time sparring some of them....did a lot of rounds with big Frank,Mason,Notice and most of the other British heavies of the day Gary Mason hit the hardest and big Jimmy Oyebola was probably the hardest style to figure out.....in terms of best boxer on his day the cruiserweight Sammy Reeson was a really good gym fighter but just couldnt always put it all together under the lights.

[gnasher16 31,843]

On 18/02/2026 at 14:46, NEWKID said:

f***ing bully, hes an embarrassment all round... why Tyson let's him turn up and act the c**t all the time I've no idea, he doesn't need that shit, it doesn't sale the fight, the only one benefiting is his dad and keeping his profile up... 

Agreed......strikes me as a man thats had an unfulfilled life.....bit sad really.

[mC HULL 18,147]

12 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Id love to see Matchroom make a move into the Ufc now......might be the only move for them.....whats the old saying " if someone plays dirty then you have to play dirtier "

He most likely will.sly hearn see it in him  I saw the 15 million is one fight ? Benn to.try getting a title taking the money and not snaking hearm. After all could be on the cards lol all the while upsetting and unsettling every ufc fighter going 

[gnasher16 31,843]

On 19/02/2026 at 23:11, Francie, said:

John fury has offered to fight froch on undercard of tysons fight,froch has accepted lol

What happened with john outside the ring in the fight gnash did he get battered

Just a gym in Bradford Fury had been acting daft taking liberties with some younger lads etc.....he'd made a nasty remark to Frank Grant ( who wasnt a man to be messed with ) Frank jumped in the ring to have a tear up with him and Fury walked away saying he was too knackered,had to get home to his pregnant wife and stuff......there was some big metal steps outside where we all used to congregate for a natter after training well Fury came running down them jumped into his Transit van with Frank in hot pursuit wearing only his jock strap screaming and shouting like a mad man while Fury went wheel spinning out the car park with Frank kicking at the side of his van telling him to come back......Fury wasnt seen at the gym certainly for the rest of the few weeks i was up there.

 

[mC HULL 18,147]

7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

About 7 years....won a few more than i lost but didnt set the world alight and never fought any big names of the day but made a nice little living at the time sparring some of them....did a lot of rounds with big Frank,Mason,Notice and most of the other British heavies of the day Gary Mason hit the hardest and big Jimmy Oyebola was probably the hardest style to figure out.....in terms of best boxer on his day the cruiserweight Sammy Reeson was a really good gym fighter but just couldnt always put it all together under the lights.

You didn't mess about gnash your sparring the top.of the tree there 

Never fought any big names but fought them.2 a few times a week got to been a be worse then a fight with tyson  

[Halfhound 1,002]

37 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Just a gym in Bradford Fury had been acting daft taking liberties with some younger lads etc.....he'd made a nasty remark to Frank Grant ( who wasnt a man to be messed with ) Frank jumped in the ring to have a tear up with him and Fury walked away saying he was too knackered,had to get home to his pregnant wife and stuff......there was some big metal steps outside where we all used to congregate for a natter after training well Fury came running down them jumped into his Transit van with Frank in hot pursuit wearing only his jock strap screaming and shouting like a mad man while Fury went wheel spinning out the car park with Frank kicking at the side of his van telling him to come back......Fury wasnt seen at the gym certainly for the rest of the few weeks i was up there.

 

Bangers hadn’t come on the scene at that stage you could freely come and go in Bradford without being taxed for your safety