mC HULL 15,577 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, greg64 said: i don't think it will go the distance usyk will stop dubois How.many times the ref gonna jump.in ? Can you get betting on that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Does anyone know the true story of when chisora stayed at the hotel of one usyks camps as it was owned by a mate of his anyway he went down at about 11 and his mate pointed at the pool and said usyks in there he's been at it since 5.. When usyk came out they both had the craic Derek impressed with the 6 hours of swimming and usyk was telling him back home as kids they would chuck themselves in the local rivers for hours and the bigger the current the better they just swim against it it was no wonder Derek said to himself in that moment his conditioning is as good as it is and later on usyk in his room dancing away to trance this and traditional Ukrainian music that.. Hes different now whether he's trained as he usually does in this camp for this fight at this stage of his career who knows we'll have to wait n see I think dubois guna come out all guns blazing early and he has to really.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: I'd done same cheated first fight as you call it and started second the same leaning in nutting you can't do that and then act like a female when you get biten mate old mother wouldn't look at you the same again ffs lol Mate you can't be serious, Tyson was much more mentally weak than Holyfield, Evander had one of the strongest resolves in boxing history. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,577 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Seagull said: Mate you can't be serious, Tyson was much more mentally weak than Holyfield, Evander had one of the strongest resolves in boxing history. Didn't he do a spin like a ballerina ?lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, Seagull said: Mate you can't be serious, Tyson was much more mentally weak than Holyfield, Evander had one of the strongest resolves in boxing history. He was great but was burnt out early aswell peaked to early and alot of those early opponents not all that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 24 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Didn't he do a spin like a ballerina ?lol The cheek, Tyson was whining like a girl in their first bout when he suffered a cut, Holyfield made Tyson look like a beta mate, it's not even up for debate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, dodger said: He was great but was burnt out early aswell peaked to early and alot of those early opponents not all that.. Yes, he was a great, but a pure front runner, he just didn't have the mentality of a Holyfield when the going got tough. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 18 minutes ago, Seagull said: Yes, he was a great, but a pure front runner, he just didn't have the mentality of a Holyfield when the going got tough. A prime tyson would have done well against usyk as you don't box usyk as I think you know you have to really put it in him which I think daniel will tonight this time but would tyson have matched usyks footwork and gas tank I q good chin aswell who knows usyk holyfield would have been epic.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dodger said: A prime tyson would have done well against usyk as you don't box usyk as I think you know you have to really put it in him which I think daniel will tonight this time but would tyson have matched usyks footwork and gas tank I q good chin aswell who knows usyk holyfield would have been epic.. If I were to put money down I think Tyson would have knocked him out early, but, you just never know do you, it's impossible to compare eras really. Holyfield studied Tyson for years and was obsessed with facing him, they were proposed to fight in the early 90's but their bout was postponed due to a Tyson injury and then Tyson went to prison before it could be made. Edited July 19 by Seagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Thing is "most"English these days are either mommy's boys or think there tough until there in a situation we're they are not as tough as they thought they was in general I mean we're as some of these other country's around the would they really are tough it's how they are they have to be there a different breed.. Even she'll suits are just coming into fashion in the Ukraine lol And for anyone thinking usyk shouldn't of been boxing and stayed fighting over there surely he's been better doing what he has a good motivation for his country and the works aswell as an excellent role model to many youngsters.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, dodger said: Thing is "most"English these days are either mommy's boys or think there tough until there in a situation we're they are not as tough as they thought they was in general I mean we're as some of these other country's around the would they really are tough it's how they are they have to be there a different breed.. Even she'll suits are just coming into fashion in the Ukraine lol And for anyone thinking usyk shouldn't of been boxing and stayed fighting over there surely he's been better doing what he has a good motivation for his country and the works aswell as an excellent role model to many youngsters.. It's a bollocks argument, was Joe Louis a coward because he didn't see any combat in WW2? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Seagull said: If I were to put money down I think Tyson would have knocked him out early, but, you just never know do you, it's impossible to compare eras really. Holyfield studied Tyson for years and was obsessed with facing him, they were proposed to fight in the early 90's but their bout was postponed due to a Tyson injury and then Tyson lost and went to prison. Me to mate and Holyfield both ideal really to beat usyk like I say you can't really stand and box got to bang and take it to him early but with that footwork ring iq gas tank chin and a great counter fighter you just don't know with usyk he is special Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,587 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, Seagull said: It's a bollocks argument, was Joe Louis a coward because he didn't see any combat in WW2? May the best man win anyway iv nothing against dubois he defo looks ready for it Iv just always liked usyk but styles make fights don't they n if dubois puts it on him which surely he will this time it could be a tasty one n go either way lookin forward to it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, dodger said: Me to mate and Holyfield both ideal really to beat usyk like I say you can't really stand and box got to bang and take it to him early but with that footwork ring iq gas tank chin and a great counter fighter you just don't know with usyk he is special A young Tyson was special as well mate, and Usyk would be facing someone faster than him, but, you just never know until they meet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 294 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Just now, dodger said: May the best man win anyway iv nothing against dubois he defo looks ready for it Iv just always liked usyk but styles make fights don't they n if dubois puts it on him which surely he will this time it could be a tasty one n go either way lookin forward to it Yeah it's the only way really but that puts him more at risk of getting tagged himself, he's not got the greatest set of whiskers and Usyk has been sitting down more on his shots of late, I can't wait, I would love to see Usyk retire undefeated but as you say, may the best man win, eventually he will bite of more than he can chew at his age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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