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Ha. Your not the first to ask. To be honest, I don't see the point in uber huge focal lens, it's a bit late 90's early 2000's, when Simmons where bangin on about the 30 minute advantage and all that s

Took the plunge Hawke vantage 4x16x40 sf, 10x1/2 mill dot , should do the trick Thanks for the advise lads , lov ya all ! atb

Scopes get very personal, as does the magnification and reticle people like.   Don't rule out some of the cheap ones, there are all the usual Hawke and NS etc., but these will generally surprise yo

You know what you need Dave,

 

 

a long weekend on the spag boll,

 

 

that way you can try the old model pan and a new model plus the mamba ( if mac dont sell it)

 

bank holls coming up aswell mate!

any time he wants :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Took the plunge

Hawke vantage 4x16x40 sf, 10x1/2 mill dot , should do the trick

Thanks for the advise lads , lov ya all !

atb

Just sold one the other day and new in the box never been on a rifle

 

for £50

 

if i had known David you could of had them mate

 

atvbmac :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Never mind Mac your a Good bloke , but you ant no mind reader ! Lol

Atb

That im not mate but im a fecking good shooter and hunter :yes: :yes: :yes:

 

how you keeping mate

 

and just when are you coming back up to shoot with the big lads

 

atvbmac :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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What you doing the bank holiday weekend ?

And where is Sean

And what mood is the lady of the north in

And is spag bog on the menu

And find a chippy with cod roe

And you can't out shoot me ( you ant got the 110 yet lol

And would we go to the bull field (if so I ant coming )

And can we go where it ant to far to walk

And can we go disco dancing

And ::::::::: fec this I give up

Atb Mac

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No bull field and not a lot of walking

 

we drive to the field and park at the gate

 

and the lady of the north is fine and says hello

 

an as for speg bols

 

as much as you can eat

 

and fetch your own cod row :bad:

 

dont no about disco dancing mind but plenty of beer on the menu

 

what time should i expect you lol

 

atvbmac :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Scopes get very personal, as does the magnification and reticle people like.

 

Don't rule out some of the cheap ones, there are all the usual Hawke and NS etc., but these will generally surprise you http://www.jsramsbottom.com/

 

Modern manufacturing techniques mean that half decent scopes can now be had for no money, and PCP's are not hard on scopes !

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In all honesty and I ain't read the posts above but you can't beat the new Hawke models. Seriously. Ultra fine cross hair too, perfect for the 100 for obvious reasons.

 

2-7x32 Airmax is the best scope I've owned, and it cost £120. Nuff said.

 

Rez, just curious, why you picked the x32 Airmax. Does it allow enough light in? Most 'scopes people choose these days seem to be x50.

 

Thanks

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In all honesty and I ain't read the posts above but you can't beat the new Hawke models. Seriously. Ultra fine cross hair too, perfect for the 100 for obvious reasons.

2-7x32 Airmax is the best scope I've owned, and it cost £120. Nuff said.

 

Rez, just curious, why you picked the x32 Airmax. Does it allow enough light in? Most 'scopes people choose these days seem to be x50.

 

Thanks

Ha. Your not the first to ask. To be honest, I don't see the point in uber huge focal lens, it's a bit late 90's early 2000's, when Simmons where bangin on about the 30 minute advantage and all that shit. f**k me, 30 minutes is nothing when your out, it's goes like a snap of ya fanny ticklers. Today's tech with the production etc has cancelled it all out. I like small, tidy equipment, not large in ya face stuff.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the old school stuff, the granite finish Simmons are mint but only for nostalgia and I respect for those still shooting the 30/30 duplex ret, as they have range finding down to an art man, like properly. They don't need mil dots, they've shot for so long. Normally you find the duplex 30/30 lads don't watch you tube, don't jump on the latest craze, don't listen to all this mil dot bollox and are more 'purest' with there shooting.

 

Anyway. I bought one, a 2-7x32 Airmax, and I've ended up with three, two installed and one to be. I do a bit of late night shooting, and I've not had any issues with having a 32 end lens. None. I could indeed get a 50 mil lens, but for the cost and what there both doing I don't see the point.

 

I thought that having a large heavy scope on my 97 would help my shooting and they have in the past growing up, but the rifle is so bedded in now that I thought I'd go for a light, little neat scope for it, the 2-7 airmax, and it's just added so much to the rifle. It's lighter, more point able, and the scope itself is epic. The new Hawke models have blown me away. The clarity and build for the cost, is quite literally a bargain.

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I'm definitely old school for Simmons Whitetail Classic scopes with the granite finish and 30/30 reticle. Hawke scopes are lovely on PCPs I've got a nice Sidewinder sitting on my Regal at the moment. But, my HW80 FAC .22s recoil will wreck any one of them in a single zeroing session. I just couldn't risk a decent Hawke on this 21 ft/lb spring rifle.

 

Not so my old Simmons Whitetail 3/5-14x40 that has been its sighting system since day one brand new. I can zero that out to 30 metres and shoot with a little instinctively-judged holdover to some very decent long ranges. And it never loses zero no matter how many shots it has to take.

 

Years and years of practice and experience shooting with it I guess, but I wouldn't trade my old Simmons for anything. Still as good as the day I bought it with my HW80.

 

Alas another brilliant scope no longer made.

 

When I think about it, fellows of my generation never had scopes on our air rifles till the mid 70s when Tasco appeared on the scene with affordable glassware.. Until then, scopes were strictly for full-bore rifles. And only then, if you had the money they cost!

30/30 duplex reticles were a huge leap forward from fine crosshairs we had when we started using affordable scopes for an air rifle. Mil-dots were unheard of so, we used to the max, what we could figure out by instinct and feel for the rifle and pellet of the day.

 

 

You young uns, don't know yer born! :laugh:

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In all honesty and I ain't read the posts above but you can't beat the new Hawke models. Seriously. Ultra fine cross hair too, perfect for the 100 for obvious reasons.

2-7x32 Airmax is the best scope I've owned, and it cost £120. Nuff said.

Rez, just curious, why you picked the x32 Airmax. Does it allow enough light in? Most 'scopes people choose these days seem to be x50.

 

Thanks

Ha. Your not the first to ask. To be honest, I don't see the point in uber huge focal lens, it's a bit late 90's early 2000's, when Simmons where bangin on about the 30 minute advantage and all that shit. f**k me, 30 minutes is nothing when your out, it's goes like a snap of ya fanny ticklers. Today's tech with the production etc has cancelled it all out. I like small, tidy equipment, not large in ya face stuff.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the old school stuff, the granite finish Simmons are mint but only for nostalgia and I respect for those still shooting the 30/30 duplex ret, as they have range finding down to an art man, like properly. They don't need mil dots, they've shot for so long. Normally you find the duplex 30/30 lads don't watch you tube, don't jump on the latest craze, don't listen to all this mil dot bollox and are more 'purest' with there shooting.

 

Anyway. I bought one, a 2-7x32 Airmax, and I've ended up with three, two installed and one to be. I do a bit of late night shooting, and I've not had any issues with having a 32 end lens. None. I could indeed get a 50 mil lens, but for the cost and what there both doing I don't see the point.

 

I thought that having a large heavy scope on my 97 would help my shooting and they have in the past growing up, but the rifle is so bedded in now that I thought I'd go for a light, little neat scope for it, the 2-7 airmax, and it's just added so much to the rifle. It's lighter, more point able, and the scope itself is epic. The new Hawke models have blown me away. The clarity and build for the cost, is quite literally a bargain.

 

Cough , cough , cough, we will not say any thing about the x50 airmax i sent you cough , cough , cough

 

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