Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Russia ain't going to be attacking Turkey. What they might do is ruthlessly bomb the shit out of ethnic Turks in Syria as 'revenge'. That is after all what they were doing in the first place which led to them straying a mile into Turkish territory. Russia has repeatedly taken the piss out of foreign states territorial sovereignty in the past few years. In the last month alone they have been testing Turkish patience. Credit to the Turks for not standing for it, the Russians won't be so keen to take liberties with them again. This 'event' has had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Islamic State. The Turkish Gov' support ethnic Turks in Syria (like the Russians do in Ukraine remember) and the Russians support Assad. I dare say this combined with a number of infringements on Turkish territory have left the Turks feeling less than tolerant of the Russians. Let's not doubt for a moment that Russia hasn't taken their Syrian intervention as opportunity to test the southern border of NATO. It's also worth noting that the Turkish F-16s probably didn't want to kill the Russians, it's possible/probable from the footage that they strafed it with cannon fire rather than a missile. The one that was shot by ethnic Turk rebels on the ground isn't hard to understand really, the f****r had just been bombing them! LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Credit the Turks lol. How about f*ck the Turks and run them back to Mongolia, give the Greeks Cyprus and Constantinople back and let Putin bring glory back to Christendom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Credit the Turks lol. How about f*ck the Turks and run them back to Mongolia, give the Greeks Cyprus and Constantinople back and let Putin bring glory back to Christendom. And maybe the Welsh and Cornish should f**k us English back off to the continent? We can't live in the past. The Turks defended their territory forcibly after, I believe, numerous Russian infringements, I'd be a hypocrite to condemn that, no matter what I think of Russian or Turkish policy on Syria or the region more widely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patchthedog 16 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Credit the Turks lol. How about f*ck the Turks and run them back to Mongolia, give the Greeks Cyprus and Constantinople back and let Putin bring glory back to Christendom. And maybe we should send the Christians back to the middle east where the religion came from. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Turkey. Oh shit oh shit USA. What is wrong with you boy ? Turkey. I shot a Russian fighter down I thought it was in my airspace. Syria. So remind me when does my airspace become your airspace ? Russia. Time to remove kebab ! Turkey. Yo yo yo chill man Chill ! Turkey . Hey Nato you got my back fam? NATO. I would fam but yoyo Turkey. Yoyo ? UK. Your on your own ! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 To be fair how often do the Turks go into Greek airspace? Look it up, it is a common occurrence. Also USA have backed the Turks actions as if they are a bastion of morality, a month or so after bombing a msf hospital in Afghanistan, which if the Russians had done we would never hear the end of. Plus I am sure they violate South American countries airspace all the time what would their response be if they were shot down? Turks back Isis along with the Saudis, qataris, Israelis etc it isn't even a religious conflict more geopolitical. I stand by the comment of getting rid of the Mongols. Remove kebab. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 To be fair how often do the Turks go into Greek airspace? Look it up, it is a common occurrence. Also USA have backed the Turks actions as if they are a bastion of morality, a month or so after bombing a msf hospital in Afghanistan, which if the Russians had done we would never hear the end of. Plus I am sure they violate South American countries airspace all the time what would their response be if they were shot down? Turks back Isis along with the Saudis, qataris, Israelis etc it isn't even a religious conflict more geopolitical. I stand by the comment of getting rid of the Mongols. Remove kebab. They are all very legitimate points. And I stand by mine, if you enter the sovereign territory of a foreign state without good reason you should expect a hostile response! You're right, it ain't religious, this whole conflict is a geopolitical game and this particular incident had nothing to do with the Islamic state. It was an escalation of the conflicting stances of Turkey and Russia on the long historical conflict between Assad and ethnic Turks in Syria. Russia gave Turkey a legitimate excuse and they seized on it. regardless of the rights and wrongs of the politics, I totally support a nation defending it's airspace. As far as 'bastions of morality' goes, I don't think any of us are in a position to pretend to take that role. Lets just crack on pragmatically, rather than living in delusions of moral superiority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,363 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 countries are not taken over peacefully its done by war then all the sheep follow suit then peace follows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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