Rez 4,961 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 A 177 pellet doesn't have enough clout to drop a rabbit. That's all I'm saying. I went out tonight with my PS, shot 4, fine, but I was sat in a field, with sheep, sat still, two rabbits came out from the hedge 60-70 yards away and the buggers ran within 5 yards of me and carried on until one stopped about 15 yards away after a squeak. Granted I should of hit its head, but I didn't, I hit the high chest area, my own fault and the f****r was mortally wounded I hate to say. The pellet hit hard, real hard, it rolled about for a bit like it wasn't going anywhere, but it pulled itself up, very quickly, and dragged itself to the nearest warren in a near by hedge. I don't know for sure, of course, but if I had my 22 it wouldn't of. As I say I don't know, but that extra clout of a 22 would of been enough, I just have that feeling. At that moment, it's puts you off shooting, but I know my 22 would of killed out right. 177 is superb, a real precise calibre, but if you don't hit the head, brain, nervous system, the fuckers are real tough little shits and drag themselves away. I take back what I've said at the start, it does, but you have to do more, which means, perhaps nothing, but you really do have to do more. It's a calibre of great respect in a springer. It's surprising that that extra 1mm'ish diameter does so much more. Wrote in anger this post. Gutted. I will not make the same shot again. 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,836 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Dont beet your self up about it REZ it happens to us all what ever the cal 177,22,20 and so on its not just the cal mate Feck me i cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 i want my head seen to Iv seen me hit one with 22 and out of the raider and its hit the chest and its run 100 yards in full fly,t be for its hit the ground dead and when iv gutted it its heart and lungs have been mush No matter how good a shot you are you cant put the pellet in the right spot 100 percent of the time and thats a fact and if any one say,s they can then there lying end of still cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 wait till mark see,s this feck me im in for some sh*t off him atvbmac :thumbs: 3 Quote Link to post
random 659 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Looks like it bothered you then?! It's an unfortunate risk we take even though we do what we can to take the buggers clean it sometimes happens,most likely dead within seconds anyway but just made it back underground,it is off putting and makes you feel crappy but shows a bit about you to and your attitude to hunting to vent your disgust publicly and remember pianomans similar post a little while back? Similar thing and perhaps similar thread coming?? 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,836 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 May be it would of been best to have kept this to your self mate as the do gooders will give you some stick you no the one,s that never miss and kill with every shot and all the gear but no idea well im away for my pop corn :snack: 2 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Dont beet your self up about it REZ it happens to us all what ever the cal 177,22,20 and so on its not just the cal mate Feck me i cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 i want my head seen to Iv seen me hit one with 22 and out of the raider and its hit the chest and its run 100 yards in full fly,t be for its hit the ground dead and when iv gutted it its heart and lungs have been mush No matter how good a shot you are you cant put the pellet in the right spot 100 percent of the time and thats a fact and if any one say,s they can then there lying end of still cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 wait till mark see,s this feck me im in for some sh*t off him atvbmac :thumbs: I can :boogie: I am the villaman Edited July 10, 2015 by villaman 1 Quote Link to post
ratbuster 808 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Have seen the same happen with FAC power .25, nobody wants this, but there's always a risk. So taking a good dog with you, could be a solution..... Quote Link to post
andykllhr 91 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) I have seen exactly this, I was out with the missus's uncle, he with a .22lr and me with a .177 Daystate Mk3, he pointed out a rabbit and I watched as his .22lr round landed in it's chest, saw the impact and the shockwave of the impact on it's body. It dropped, then immediately get up and run like nothing happened, really weird, I was convinced it wouldn't have got up from that. Unfortunately this does happen from time to time, it's never nice but one of the risks of this sport. The missus's uncle's opinion is to effectively roll bunnies with a .177 you need to use heavier pellets (he used crosman premier), I'm not 100% convinced of this but he always got good results, might be worth a go. Edited July 10, 2015 by andykllhr Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I am no expert far from it lol, as ive hunted with lurchers 30 odd years , but do some times knock few rabbits over or rats that come into my garden, and ive always aimed for the eye on these quarry. I ve shot both 177 and 22 . as long as you aim at that area ,and just fraction below the eye , you get clean kill . ive seen fair over the rabbits hit lower on the body either fromm 177 / 22 get up and piss off. Quote Link to post
The one 8,592 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 It can happen but while your watching the rabbit I reckon you should be loading the gun again preparing for a second shot like you do with bigger game a few times a second sHot has saved a lost rabbit 2 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 It can happen but while your watching the rabbit I reckon you should be loading the gun again preparing for a second shot like you do with bigger game a few times a second sHot has saved a lost rabbit Good point. I actually was to be honest, but a Pro Sport isn't the quickest to reload at the best of times, especially as Im left handed shooter... I'll let you have a think about that one with the loading port on the PS being on the right Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,836 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 It can happen but while your watching the rabbit I reckon you should be loading the gun again preparing for a second shot like you do with bigger game a few times a second sHot has saved a lost rabbit Good point. I actually was to be honest, but a Pro Sport isn't the quickest to reload at the best of times, especially as Im left handed shooter... I'll let you have a think about that one with the loading port on the PS being on the right Should of used the 100 then that would not of been a problem atvbmac :thumbs: 3 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,836 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Dont beet your self up about it REZ it happens to us all what ever the cal 177,22,20 and so on its not just the cal mate Feck me i cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 i want my head seen to Iv seen me hit one with 22 and out of the raider and its hit the chest and its run 100 yards in full fly,t be for its hit the ground dead and when iv gutted it its heart and lungs have been mush No matter how good a shot you are you cant put the pellet in the right spot 100 percent of the time and thats a fact and if any one say,s they can then there lying end of still cant bi-leave iv just stuck up for 177 wait till mark see,s this feck me im in for some sh*t off him atvbmac :thumbs: I can :boogie: I am the villaman in yer dreams :tongue2: i can still remember the circle Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 It can happen but while your watching the rabbit I reckon you should be loading the gun again preparing for a second shot like you do with bigger game a few times a second sHot has saved a lost rabbit Good point. I actually was to be honest, but a Pro Sport isn't the quickest to reload at the best of times, especially as Im left handed shooter... I'll let you have a think about that one with the loading port on the PS being on the right Should of used the 100 then that would not of been a problem atvbmac :thumbs: Ha. You are right. Going out with that this evening, the rabbits are now back on the flowers and my 97 for some targets. Mrs is out, got a good 5 hours ahead of me. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I have seen a fox run shot straight through the heart and lungs with a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, it was dead, it had no heart left, but it managed to run 60 yards or so and bury itself in a hedge, took us about half an hour to find it (lamping) I have body shot rats with a .22 rf and seen their guts strewn across the farmyard, managing to drag themselves along, it happens now and again, got fu*k all to do with calibre/power etc under those circumstances. 1 Quote Link to post
jonnie bravo 572 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Not wanting to shift the focus at all, but adrenaline is incredible stuff. If you watch any deer hunting video's you quickly see how much adrenaline plays a part in if an animal drops dead or not. I think you are a perfectionist rez not that it's a bad thing it just makes you feel worse when things don't quite go to plan. It's clear to see you aimed to be as humane as poss. 4 Quote Link to post
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