MIK 4,763 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Another bum for the giant moron.. The sooner he gets knocked out the better. I know what there plan is,to just get through to a big money fight like klichco..He is an embarassment to Britain. Where do they find these people for him to fight? Come on Joshua!! put this gobshite to sleep...please!! be sure to contact me .if joshua ever attains those heights and warrents a shot at tyson .il cover all side bets no matter how much .tyson and hughie have both called him out .after him and hearn were filmed bad mouthing tyson So who has Tyson beat to warrant the heights he enjoys,that Joshua wont reach? you be sure to contact me when you want to put your money where your mouth is .as for joshua il state the same as i did on here about david price two years ago .loshua will be beat as soon as he steps up and fights some one who fights back .in fact if joshua agrees to fight hughie fury this year he will lose .and dont forget who told you first Edited March 5, 2015 by MIK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,870 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You hit nail on the head there,he is boring..Hes just getting through with his eye on the big money fight if he gets it.. He wont give Wlad any problems,but does he really deserve that chance? Personally I dont care if he deserves it,I just want to see him knocked out and gone..People like him shouldnt be representing Britain on a world stage. Just out of curiosity mate why shouldnt Fury be representing Britain on a world stage if he is good enough to ? Well I dont think he is good enough,and apart from that hes a gobby foul mouthed delusional moron who doesnt know how to behave in public. Apart from that I cant think of anything really. He does come across as a soppy big kid without an ounce of class i agree......but this is boxing its not big brother how popular you are makes no odds to what happens inside the ring and inside the ring he has done all thats been asked..........meaning so far he is good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think there should be another weight division for these lumbering giants. If there weights were more inline with there opponents i would be surprised if any of them would win any kind of title. Even if the likes of pac man and mayweather were giving 2 and 3 stone away in every fight they wouldnt have achieved a quarter of what they have. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,870 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Taggy ive been going on for years now about a super heavyweight division.........times have moved on,human beings have evolved bigger and stronger,strength and conditioning,scientific nutrition have all come on leaps and bounds........yet the heavyweight boxing division is the same as it was in 1885 !!! The difference in pure boxing ability between the near 7 footers of today and the natural welters and middleweights is beyond recognition to the point where its difficult to class them as the same sport.........ive said many times a 6 foot/200 lb Fury or Klitchko wouldnt even be national level fighters. Edited March 5, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Its just far too much of a weight diffrence to be competitive i think gnasher. Even in sparring you can tell the diffrence with someone who is 6 or 7 pound heavier. So what its like giving 2 stone away with 10 ounce gloves on i wouldnt like to think . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,870 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 At heavyweight that 6 or 7 pound isnt a big deal......when it starts creeping up to 20/25 pound yes it is an issue as it means you are getting moved around more when close in.......its the height/reach difference to go with that weight that makes it impossible......your trying to get around the other guys reach and get inside to land shots and as soon as you do they grab and hold then start moving you around inside.....they lean all over you and that extra weight becomes physically draining so you go back on the outside but your out of range and getting caught with jabs that you cant ignore when a guy is that size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,097 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Bro okie, the furys number one fan lol, you are loyal mate I give you that, but I don't think Tyson will ever make it a world title, and when in 3 yrs time when the klitschos are over the hill then he will set the challenge then, every body nowadays wants the express train to the top, fcuk that fighting malarkey, then claim that they even would have beaten the great ali Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeemes 4,792 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You hit nail on the head there,he is boring..Hes just getting through with his eye on the big money fight if he gets it.. He wont give Wlad any problems,but does he really deserve that chance? Personally I dont care if he deserves it,I just want to see him knocked out and gone..People like him shouldnt be representing Britain on a world stage. Just out of curiosity mate why shouldnt Fury be representing Britain on a world stage if he is good enough to ? Well I dont think he is good enough,and apart from that hes a gobby foul mouthed delusional moron who doesnt know how to behave in public. Apart from that I cant think of anything really. He does come across as a soppy big kid without an ounce of class i agree......but this is boxing its not big brother how popular you are makes no odds to what happens inside the ring and inside the ring he has done all thats been asked..........meaning so far he is good enough. I want to see him in with someone good..If he performs then,I will hold my hands up and say fare play..but I really do think he is very lacking in all departments. His brain,his conformation,his power,skill and gameness,also a man who has to work so hard at being a character really isnt one and it would help if he just kept his mouth shut. I believe he will be beaten the first time he gets anywhere near class.,which would have been Haye had it happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Taggy ive been going on for years now about a super heavyweight division.........times have moved on,human beings have evolved bigger and stronger,strength and conditioning,scientific nutrition have all come on leaps and bounds........yet the heavyweight boxing division is the same as it was in 1885 !!! The difference in pure boxing ability between the near 7 footers of today and the natural welters and middleweights is beyond recognition to the point where its difficult to class them as the same sport.........ive said many times a 6 foot/200 lb Fury or Klitchko wouldnt even be national level fighters. was that not the point of the cruiserweight division? its still not nearly as popular because everyone wants to see the biggest fellas fight. it would lose its prestige imo when we had nothing but obese 7 foot men fighting boring slow paced title fights. give them smaller gloves,either allow clinching/holding and hitting or have a zero tolerence policy on it,also bring back 15 round title fights and i reckon the smaller fellas will do better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bro okie, the furys number one fan lol, you are loyal mate I give you that, but I don't think Tyson will ever make it a world title, and when in 3 yrs time when the klitschos are over the hill then he will set the challenge then, every body nowadays wants the express train to the top, fcuk that fighting malarkey, then claim that they even would have beaten the great ali you dont think tyson will ever make it a world title ? Hes made it chum ,hes the mandatory challenger for the world title .as for the robot hes avoiding tyson like the plague ,he would rather con joe public by fighting old cruiserweights and people not even ranked. and then he will only fight em in his back garden . as for in three yrs time he will set the challenge ? hes been insulting and calling the robot out for the last three yrs as for number one fan and loyal lets just say bloods thicker than water eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 You hit nail on the head there,he is boring..Hes just getting through with his eye on the big money fight if he gets it.. He wont give Wlad any problems,but does he really deserve that chance? Personally I dont care if he deserves it,I just want to see him knocked out and gone..People like him shouldnt be representing Britain on a world stage. Just out of curiosity mate why shouldnt Fury be representing Britain on a world stage if he is good enough to ? Well I dont think he is good enough,and apart from that hes a gobby foul mouthed delusional moron who doesnt know how to behave in public. Apart from that I cant think of anything really. He does come across as a soppy big kid without an ounce of class i agree......but this is boxing its not big brother how popular you are makes no odds to what happens inside the ring and inside the ring he has done all thats been asked..........meaning so far he is good enough. I want to see him in with someone good..If he performs then,I will hold my hands up and say fare play..but I really do think he is very lacking in all departments. His brain,his conformation,his power,skill and gameness,also a man who has to work so hard at being a character really isnt one and it would help if he just kept his mouth shut. I believe he will be beaten the first time he gets anywhere near class.,which would have been Haye had it happened. tyson has more skill gameness and power in his right thumb than what that bum haye has or ever had . as for your other concerns il mention it to him .im sure hes going to be very concerned and will take it on board ffs .as for wanting to see him in with some one good ,didnt anyone tell you the bloke he fought last week was ranked 3 in the world .why dont you haters just come clean and admit it ,you f***ing eating yourselves with jealousy and hatred because your local gypsy boy is ruling the heavy weight division and he dont give two fucks for any of you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 i wouldnt say hes ruling the division brookie has he hasnt won the title yet or the fact some folk have took a dislike to him its because of how he acts and conducts himself not because hes a gypsy kid that has nothing to do with it and has for haye he did win world titles at different weights so i wouldnt say he was a bum either i hope he does win a title banks a few quid and stops all the circus act and lets what he does in the ring and not out of it do all the talking 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,870 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I want to see him in with someone good..If he performs then,I will hold my hands up and say fare play..but I really do think he is very lacking in all departments. His brain,his conformation,his power,skill and gameness,also a man who has to work so hard at being a character really isnt one and it would help if he just kept his mouth shut. I believe he will be beaten the first time he gets anywhere near class.,which would have been Haye had it happened. Thats the thing though mate there isnt really anyone talented enough around at the moment to stop sheer size winning the day......the Klitchkos have proved that over the last 10 years......i agree i think Haye had too much for Fury as i think Joshua will if he keeps improving........the whole character thing you just have to look past im sure he will be as embarrassed by it as anyone else in years to come infact i think its the little posse around him who roll around in hysterical laughter every time he farts that are more embarrassing......but judging Fury as a fighter alone i think he has done well to get into the position he is now in simply because as a fighter you can do no more than beat whats put infront of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,870 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) was that not the point of the cruiserweight division? its still not nearly as popular because everyone wants to see the biggest fellas fight. it would lose its prestige imo when we had nothing but obese 7 foot men fighting boring slow paced title fights. give them smaller gloves,either allow clinching/holding and hitting or have a zero tolerence policy on it,also bring back 15 round title fights and i reckon the smaller fellas will do better. The cruiserweight division was just to bridge the 25 pound gap between light heavy and heavy........some of the lighter weights only have 3 or 4 pound between divisions so 25 pound is too big of a jump. Couldnt agree with allowing clinching/holding or lighter gloves......but i wholeheartedly agree with going back to 15 round fights......with todays conditioning fighters are doing the 12 round course far too easily. Edited March 6, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 was that not the point of the cruiserweight division? its still not nearly as popular because everyone wants to see the biggest fellas fight. it would lose its prestige imo when we had nothing but obese 7 foot men fighting boring slow paced title fights. give them smaller gloves,either allow clinching/holding and hitting or have a zero tolerence policy on it,also bring back 15 round title fights and i reckon the smaller fellas will do better. The cruiserweight division was just to bridge the 25 pound gap between light heavy and heavy........some of the lighter weights only have 3 or 4 pound between divisions so 25 pound is too big of a jump. Couldnt agree with allowing clinching/holding or lighter gloves......but i wholeheartedly agree with going back to 15 round fights......with todays conditioning fighters are doing the 12 round course far too easily. i think the gloves today are probably different to the ones in the old days,if you ever have the chance try wearing some 10 oz thai gloves,they feel very different because you can strike with the entire fist so it's all padded evenly rather than 90% of it around the knuckles,placement of the knuckles actually imo matter more in that and mma because of it. as for clinch,i tried to watch a junior witter fight a while ago,and that made my mind up on that lol the action just stops as soon as either fighter wants it to which ruins a lot of fights imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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