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[Dewclaw69 484]

Truther I am darft but not stupid I have a mate who I hunt with and he has a nice bitch he wants me to take on as she had her leg broken when hit by a car a year or two ago and after few runs she goes lame. But all I was asking was if this would be the best cross or should it have something else in the mix

as you want to use one of the working collies i'd make sure the only other things in the mix are running dogs. if you breed from your mate's bitch you know what you're getting. use a lurcher bitch and a collie stud and its anyone's guess which way the pups will throw. good luck

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Id opt for one of the proven line-bred coursing dogs, over a modern greyhound for adding the longdog element. Just my opinion

[crorider 174]

Saluki grey type from a fast line. There's plenty about, you'll know exactly how its bred and wont sacrifice too much speed like you might if you used a lurcher stud rather than a longdog. Pick the raciest pup and then all you can do is cross your fingers, toes, arms and legs

[tomshep 41]

 

No need for anything else in the mix if one half is full collie mate, you just need the engine, you'll get brains,feet,coat from the collie, depends what you want from a dog, first x is just to much collie for me, you get the odd exeption granted, but a line i read in a book once sums it up for me it went "ive never met a man who owned a first x collie/ grey who was 100% happy with it"

 

This man seems to like his collies mate. No disrespect to your opinion but I've never had a 1st cross collie/grey that I wasn't happy with and I've had one or two in my time.

If I could breed a dog as smart as that I will be a happy man

[timmy k 592]

Have a look on the reverse 3/4 cross thread if your worried about them being to heavy, theirs some handy looking dogs on that thread but it all depends on what your after and the ground your running on, some of the places I go in Wales suit the heavier mooching type but I'm a sucker for a fast rangy hound so I know what I'd choose.

[Neal 1,916]

Is it just me, or does anybody else find it ironic that a) some on this thread are claiming that any litter produced would be surplus to requirements when he have regular threads asking for genuine collie crosses and some are also claiming that half (or more) collie is too much when, concurrently, there's a thread running extolling the merits of 3/4 collies?

 

Each to their own, but if I had a good sheep or cattle dog which I knew inside out and access to an appropriate other half which I was confident would add what I wanted then I'd only buy one from elsewhere if I simply didn't want the hassle...not that that's a bad reason!

 

edited to add: not sure where that smiley came from as I'm typing on my wife's tablet which never lets me add them. Weird!

Edited September 22, 2014 by Neal

[Truther 1,579]

Is it just me, or does anybody else find it ironic that a) some on this thread are claiming that any litter produced would be surplus to requirements when he have regular threads asking for genuine collie crosses and some are also claiming that half (or more) collie is too much when, concurrently, there's a thread running extolling the merits of 3/4 collies?

 

Each to their own, but if I had a good sheep or cattle dog which I knew inside out and access to an appropriate other half which I was confident would add what I wanted then I'd only buy one from elsewhere if I simply didn't want the hassle...not that that's a bad reason!

 

edited to add: not sure where that smiley came from as I'm typing on my wife's tablet which never lets me add them. Weird!

 

What i actually said was "half collie is to much for me" that's a country mile from "half collie is to much" do you think im just pulling my thoughts out of thin air mate, or basing it on first hand experience?

[Neal 1,916]

Calm down...I was merely pointing out the disparity between the two points of view...sorry if it offended but I was just commenting on the fact that several people (not one, but several) feel that a certain type of breeding is unnecessary while others can devote whole threads to the same type.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Neal if you put the letter "b" and then a bracket it puts a smiley with glasses on. Haha.

[colliejohn 840]

It,s each to their own, but if i were you i,d breed a litter of first crosses, all this rubbish about litter wastage is just nonsense, to many people go on about speed, has long has a dog has enough pace to pick up a rabbit, in my eyes thats all that matters, to much speeed can lead to injuries, and worst still death, i prefer collie saturated type dogs, alot of collie crosses being bred nowadays are greyhounds that are collie marked. regards collie john.

[Dewclaw69 484]

Is it just me, or does anybody else find it ironic that a) some on this thread are claiming that any litter produced would be surplus to requirements when he have regular threads asking for genuine collie crosses and some are also claiming that half (or more) collie is too much when, concurrently, there's a thread running extolling the merits of 3/4 collies?

 

Each to their own, but if I had a good sheep or cattle dog which I knew inside out and access to an appropriate other half which I was confident would add what I wanted then I'd only buy one from elsewhere if I simply didn't want the hassle...not that that's a bad reason!

 

edited to add: not sure where that smiley came from as I'm typing on my wife's tablet which never lets me add them. Weird!

regarding the litter wastage, the OP did not indicate he had a bitch to breed from. his first post did ask about greyhound or grey whippet cross. my comments were based on bringing in an uknown bitch. in that instance the only known blood would have been the collie .

[Truther 1,579]

Calm down...I was merely pointing out the disparity between the two points of view...sorry if it offended but I was just commenting on the fact that several people (not one, but several) feel that a certain type of breeding is unnecessary while others can devote whole threads to the same type.

 

No offence taken mate, i see collie x blindness is still alive and kicking on here though lol.

[bigdogscarborough 14]

Collie x is the best ask David or sally

[Neal 1,916]

Aahhh...now I know why that smiley was on my post!

 

Me...collie blindness...I've got kelpies!

[fluff 410]

had alot of expierence with collie types and if i was going to breed a pure collie to a running dog i would use a racy saluki type ,with good feet and a hunting brain saw 2 or three like that and some up for stud ,better than any greyhound and they are proven in the feild and there producing the goods,and lack no pace