Ptsd .....

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Here.

 

If just one f**king person reads that shit, and gets a clue from it what's going on? That'll be cool.

 

 

[paulus 26]

thank god for people like "combat stress" who treat our hero`s

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Err ..... That Was a Huge dose of irony laced sarcasm. Yeah? I mean; You read the article. Yes?

[paulus 26]

Err ..... That Was a Huge dose of irony laced sarcasm. Yeah? I mean; You read the article. Yes?

i come across ptsd on a regular basis with my work as a caseworker for SSAFA, combat stress do very good work but they are limited by funding as treatment is not just a pill and your cured, it takes years to even start to understand each individual case, this all comes down to money as usual and all at the expense of the well-being of those affected. i see lads still having to travel from the Midlands to Scotland twice yearly to attend sessions with combat stress some of these have been suffering since the Falklands and in some cases before this.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

i see lads still having to travel from the Midlands to Scotland twice yearly to attend sessions with combat stress.

 

 

None of that seemed to go down too well with those interviewed, did it? Hardly f**king surprising either.

 

Frankly? If anyone asked me to travel like that, for what? Twice a year sessions of having ye mind put through the food processor? No F**king Way!

 

That sort of stress alone could f**king near destroy a guy. And for what? F**k that!

 

I don't know what the answer is. (Answers are) I dare say not every sufferer feels the same. So, there's no one size fits all remedy.

 

I just know that I read that article all the way through. Found it Extremely uncomfortable going, quite honestly. Thought I'd made it though. Till that shit about her taking him to his Safe Place.

 

Then I just drew an almighty breath and cried like I haven't cried in f**king years.

[paulus 26]

None of that seemed to go down too well with those interviewed, did it? Hardly f**king surprising either.

 

one assumes combat stress are not to happy with the situation either but unless capital is found from either the public or dare i say the private sector then nothing will move forward this is why the government is unlikely to recognise the problems with ptsd stem from service as they would then become responsible. there happy with the muddy water situation that exists with service and mental health issues. slightly off a tangent but the situation is no better with non service vulnerable adults, my elder brother suffers from cromazone disorder called fragile X and is under the care of the local authority, only there is no local authority places any more there all within the private sector with a basic room in sheltered housing costing upwards of 1800 quid a week and then everything else is billed as extra to the responsible local authority, there nothing but cash cows and financial abuse is rife as the owners are the ones responsible for the care and standards in their own homes. there is little social services can do as there is no alternative for them to move anyone to. on top of that the cuts are closing all the day care centres so again private alternatives are being set up. the question is obvious...........who benefits from these cuts and the answer is not difficult is it..............................

[PIL 7]

Very sad reading that , Paul.

[Themoocher 231]

Still loads of stigma still attached to going to mental health clinic in the forces.

There is a lot of lads drink a lot to block shit out and get into a lot of trouble in process.

If it was nipped in the bud at the start it would reduce a lot of the issues.

When in the forces there is loads of help and clinics for mental health issues the biggest problem is getting soldiers to go and talk to people about the problems they are going through.

 

The care while serving has come on leaps and bounds the past 10 years.

Mostly so the MOD cover there arses and don't have to pay out to guys, with pay outs and pensions.

 

The lads crack on with it while in the forces. You get away with drinking 5 nights a week long as your up and doing pt everyday no one gives a f**k.

leave the forces and the problems start and normal health centres and NHS don't have the rescources to help the soldiers with PTSD and mental health issues.

[WILF 51,136]

I have no doubt that this is a very real thing for lots of ex and serving forces personel.......I do a lot of work in the London office of Abf, combat stress, ssaffa and they do good work, mostly ex forces dudes.....all tidy lads.

 

However, I have to ask myself......have we got softer as a society ?

 

There was no such thing after the 2 wars ( obviously shell shock) but the attitude in them days was "crack on"

 

We have sort of come to look for the helping hand all the time as a society over the past 40 odd years it seems.........same as councelling.........only 30 years ago,totally unheard of.........now, you get councelling if your f***ing cat dies !!

 

Do we think this country needs a good helping of " man the f**k up"'?

 

Not slagging anyone, just something that occurs to me when I see things like this.

[Brigzy 1,298]

Thing is, Wilf,there were men shot for cowardice during the World Wars, who were obviously shell shocked and traumatised, and would now be diagnosed with PTSD; but you are right in some ways; PTSD is used by some to swing the lead and get compo and benifits whereas others who really DO have it, just get on with it, and has been said sometimes turn to drink, drugs and end up homeless. A sad state of affairs. The Military Covanent MUST be respected, and anyone injured, physically or mentally, MUST get the best possible treatment !

[gnasher16 31,602]

I have no doubt that this is a very real thing for lots of ex and serving forces personel.......I do a lot of work in the London office of Abf, combat stress, ssaffa and they do good work, mostly ex forces dudes.....all tidy lads.

 

However, I have to ask myself......have we got softer as a society ?

 

There was no such thing after the 2 wars ( obviously shell shock) but the attitude in them days was "crack on"

 

We have sort of come to look for the helping hand all the time as a society over the past 40 odd years it seems.........same as councelling.........only 30 years ago,totally unheard of.........now, you get councelling if your f*****g cat dies !!

 

Do we think this country needs a good helping of " man the f**k up"'?

 

Not slagging anyone, just something that occurs to me when I see things like this.

 

Totally agree............" victims " have become the most powerful people in society.........my pals house got turned over the other day he had a victim support letter through his door before anyone had even turned up to take a statement from him !.........Society has become weak,look at the amount of crying on telly these days its almost like its become fashionable to be overly emotional......all these soppy shows where they cry their eyes out because they dont win a singing contest !............" support groups " for everything from an ingrowing toe nail to dressing up in womens clothing........we have gone from a rough tough survival of the fittest type society to a society of dogooders where the weakest have the most rights.

[WILF 51,136]

I agree mate, they must get the very best.

We are in reality a million miles in front of where we have ever been in the past with regards to the care men get.

 

The army has been using men up then chucking them on the rubbish heap since there have been army's so the last 20 years things have gone ahead leaps and bounds.

 

However, all that said, when you sign on the dotted line you have to know it could end up more than one long camping trip and cleaning practice......what did those dudes think it was gonna be?

 

Nobody realizes what a dead human being looks like until they see one, it not f***ing pretty.

 

As they say, if you can't take a joke then you shouldn't join......that's go's for everything in life IMHO

 

Just seems to be a lot more fannies about now days.......or maybe it's more carpetbaggers telling folk they have a problem and need help so they can stay in a job.

 

Whatever it is, a bit more " f**k sake, get a grip" wouldn't go amiss in today's world IMHO

 

My pal was telling me about a lad on his camp and it went something along the lines of this.......the lad had chopped his finger off in an accident a week before they were due to go on excercise, the CO had called him in and asked him if he wanted to swerve the gig...

 

The lads reply? " No thank you sir because I was actually born a man !!"...........we could do with a bit more of that these days

Edited April 28, 2014 by WILF