The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margeet Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reppen them again a few years after? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huan72 687 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 GTE, the north south divide, Liverpool docks are trying to steal business from the hard working southerners at Southampton Seriously though, its good that the marine industry is thriving in this country, oh yeah I forgot, Portsmouth is downsizing. The sea is our biggest asset, whether Southampton, Liverpool or Portsmouth or even, dare I say it, a Scottish port are doing well, its all good for me, I am British, concentrating on divides and differences just makes success more difficult 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Liverpool or should i say royal seaforth is the second largest container port in the uk. Out strips mushtown n tonage by miles think you are talking about the cruise terminal think you need to face fact baring the boat show and one lap dancing club mush town is second best in the tourist market , lol and when L2 comes on line think you will see the gap widen even further Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,933 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margeet Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reppen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,933 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 GTE, the north south divide, Liverpool docks are trying to steal business from the hard working southerners at Southampton Seriously though, its good that the marine industry is thriving in this country, oh yeah I forgot, Portsmouth is downsizing. The sea is our biggest asset, whether Southampton, Liverpool or Portsmouth or even, dare I say it, a Scottish port are doing well, its all good for me, I am British, concentrating on divides and differences just makes success more difficult Third biggest port in the UK is just down the road from me in WALES!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendrover 556 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 ok ray , hope your well pal im not going to read past this point as even though its over 30 years ago , I have 1st hand experience of my auld man being out on strike for over a year . everyone has there view and are perfectly entitled to them . but let me assure you , people suffered badly families torn apart . wounds that will never heal . I came from a line of miners , my dad being the last , I never made it to the pits as I was 15 . maybe a good thing . but if you didn't go through it then you will never know the real depth of feeling of seeing your way of life coming to an end , and being hungry at the same time . as for Baw , it wasn't just the mining villages that were affected , and it wasn't just a few collieries shut . YES we have to move on , BUT it doesn't mean its easy . atb Benny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,933 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Who said the mineing industry couldent sustain its self ?? Oh yes thatcher and the torys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,933 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Who said the mineing industry couldent sustain its self ?? Oh yes thatcher and the torys.Proven liars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Who said the mineing industry couldent sustain its self ?? Oh yes thatcher and the torys. Of course Thatcher how silly of me, forget facts lets just burn the witch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,933 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Who said the mineing industry couldent sustain its self ?? Oh yes thatcher and the torys. Of course Thatcher how silly of me, forget facts lets just burn the witch. So her and her goverment did not tell lies then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
readie 184 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 i remember my old man going on the picket lines each day of the strike,i also remember having no food/etc in the house,and managing what we could scrape together.i can also remember a friend of my old man giving in and returning to work to feed his family,the only winners/winner was scargill and his cronies who still got paid,never starved for a day and yet the miners still folllowed him blaming everyone but who they should have blamed for calling the strike.scargill started the strike and he should have some responsibility for what happened to communitys afterwards. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thing is Malt £1.2 Billion a year subsidies how much IS acceptable then before the plug is pulled £2 billion? £5 Billion? £10 Billion? £50 Billion? This isn't a state vs private ownership issue it's part of this thread, I've said already I felt for the miners they were caught up in a political argument but I say again it's 30years ago, to have families not talking because of something that happened due to work is laughable at best but more pathetic. The recent protests televised around the world when Margret Thatcher died in Rotherham/Barnsley were cringeworthy it looked just like they were locked in a bitter time warp. Again why does no one question the pits closed under labour prior to Thatchers govt , and if they were so successful why didn't Labour reopen them again a few years after? Because their was other jobs to go to with in the industry when thatcher decided to shut the pits all in one go their was f**k all jobs in these areas to fall back on thats why men like me stood their ground and put up a fekin fight unlike the people today who are happy with their situation no matter how much the politicians keep shiting on us. OK I ask again how much tax payers money is acceptable as a subsidiary before the pits should have been closed ? The same amount thats used now to prop up companys thats makeing millions in profit wile most of their workforce are claiming tax credits. Which is how much I ask again? In your opinion tell me befo,re YOU think it is no longer viable how much should the country pay to keep an industry that is unable to sustain itself ???? Who said the mineing industry couldent sustain its self ?? Oh yes thatcher and the torys. Of course Thatcher how silly of me, forget facts lets just burn the witch. So her and her goverment did not tell lies then. "News Flash" Every government tells lies maybe you've not been round long enough to find this out forgive me mate I don't know. I will ask this question with the fear of becoming boring HOW MUCH is acceptable to fund and continue a coal mine that is not profitable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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