scothunter 12,609 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Anyone else i might say aye lol getting his troops ready.The plot thickens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,846 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Yes! The yanks will probably respond by flying a B2 over Moscow. Edited February 26, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 aye so they will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 He won't want to f**k about with the Ukraine if he can help it, they inherited a fair slice of the old Soviet military IIRC.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 They see all these arab springs and now ukraine as proxy wars for us and nato and really wont want them right next door in ukraine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 On another note, I see America is cutting back its defense budget, reducing troop numbers. They don't want involved in costly long battles like they have recently. Not just us doing it then.... WE'RE DOOMED DOOOOOOOOOMED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 WE'RE DOOMED DOOOOOOOOOMED Allow me: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 He simply can not allow the Ukraine to fall under western control! The Russian Black Sea Fleet is based in the Crimea and he couldn't allow it to be surrounded by what the Russians consider "the enemy". We should keep out of it, as the Americans will, and let's see what the EU can do without us !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 He simply can not allow the Ukraine to fall under western control! The Russian Black Sea Fleet is based in the Crimea and he couldn't allow it to be surrounded by what the Russians consider "the enemy". We should keep out of it, as the Americans will, and let's see what the EU can do without us !!The Crimea is key in this.. Worst case scenario is it declares independence from the Ukraine and Russia helps it to achieve it. I looked it up earlier, Ukraine inherited 30% of the Soviet military when the USSR fell, it's armed to the teeth. It don't need the US or EU to back it up.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Malt, they inherited an obsolete diesel sub and a few aging frigates. The deal was Russia would keep Sebastabol in the Crimea as a major naval base and guarantee Ukraines safety. Now they want to be part of the EU, all bets will be off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,846 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Russia wont take any serious military action against Ukrain, it'd be mental! If the Ukrainians are seriously wanting to 'join the west' then they'd be in NATO in a flash. But they wouldn't need to be in NATO to have that protection. The West wont just sit by and watch the Russians throw their weight about, that's a dangerous game to let run. We know that, the Russians know that.......... nothing is going to happen. And this is exactly why we need to maintain a nuclear deterant. It keeps shit harmonious! We don't all get along because we have reached a superior state of civilisation, we all get along because it's f***ing suicidal not to! Edited February 26, 2014 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Malt, they inherited an obsolete diesel sub and a few aging frigates. .Really? What about the 5000 odd armoured vehicles they have in service and the couple of hundred jets? When the USSR fell they inherited all the military that was based in the country, and seeing as most of it was the main soviet ground force that would invade Western Europe in the event of a war, it was a f***ing lot! They also inherited nukes but they gave them up voluntarily.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here you go, knock yourself out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Ground_Forces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 "Nothing is going to happen", what, just like Georgia, Chechnya and Daghistan ? The Russians are unpredictable, always have been. If they think it's a threat, they will act. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 i thought the black sea fleet was at anchor there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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