potpoacher 27 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 sumone persuade me some more. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Don't know the first thing about Otters,just looked at the images,a 35lb carp killed by an otter....seriously on a different tac,Cormorants do far more damage to the fisheries round here...absolute nightmare,decimate fish stocks at a rate of nots . You can get a liecence to controll them Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 sumone persuade me some more.. Reaseach it your self its all availible Quote Link to post
twymanc 135 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 im in all done!!! Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 cormorants might do a lot of damage but they are not protected or released by clueless people. if your in Manchester you have otters already its just a matter of time before you get hit. Quote Link to post
northern lad 2,292 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 cormorants might do a lot of damage but they are not protected or released by clueless people. if your in Manchester you have otters already its just a matter of time before you get hit. I know cormorants aren't protected ,however due to housing being in close proximity to at least 3 of the waters Ive seen decimated ,shooting is not an option.On one of the waters the powers that be have now installed cages every 30yds along the length of the fishery,each has a rope and a buoy so they can be clearly seen....they have effectively stopped pike fishing on there as a big fish will go straight round the back of them,with only one outcome.....back to my previous post ...an otter slaying a 35lb carp.... whats your thoughts .... Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Bloody phone Edited February 13, 2014 by treecreeper Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 If you mean will an otter take a 35lb carp? Yes they have took bigger some of the fish in the picture I posted are over that. Also heard of a 37 common and a 41lb mirror took last week. Quote Link to post
northern lad 2,292 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Fook me...that would take some doing....Im 30x the size of an otter and have yet to manage it what does an adult otter weigh in at roughly? Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Length, including tail: males (dogs) 1.10 m, females (bitches) just over 1 m Weight: males 9 - 10 kg, females 6 - 7 kg I did hear rumours of cormorants being added to the general licence so fingers crossed. Edited February 13, 2014 by treecreeper Quote Link to post
Mr Muddy 141 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think you’ve got to be realistic on this one; there’s absolutely no way the general public will support an otter cull. It’s just not going to happen. People don’t understand how ecosystems work, they don’t want to understand, they don’t care.All they care about is which animals are cutest, and cuddly ‘ickle’ otters on T.V. are cuter than carp. 2 Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) correct mate, and they cant see the fish so they have no idea what lives there. a cull will never happen but the ability to protect livestock from apex preditors like every other farmer should. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/Jossf/photo_zpsc727d4dc.jpg a 40+ not sure how to show the pic Edited February 13, 2014 by treecreeper Quote Link to post
outandabout 27 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) I think you’ve got to be realistic on this one; there’s absolutely no way the general public will support an otter cull. It’s just not going to happen. People don’t understand how ecosystems work, they don’t want to understand, they don’t care. All they care about is which animals are cutest, and cuddly ‘ickle’ otters on T.V. are cuter than carp. Agreed mate, some good points there. We are fortunate that there are other forms of management available. If selective or authorised culling would be completely out of the question, there are still measures that can be taken to protect fisheries or prevent further re-introductions etc. So in my opinion, this petition is very valid and worthwhile. I will continue to encourage people to sign it. The angling trust have washed their hands of the problem, so this seems to be about the only way of trying to do something positive against the otter problem. For anglers who haven't experienced otter predation in their area, I would encourage you to still sign the petition. Looking at how otter populations have spread across the UK in the last 10 years, it may not be long before most fisheries across the UK are stripped of their better quality fish. It takes about a minute to sign the petition, so please make the effort. Edited February 14, 2014 by ekpestcontrol Quote Link to post
Mr Muddy 141 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 It’s a real tricky one. This might sound far-fetched but maybe you could get a licence to live-catch and relocate them away from course fisheries, on the grounds that they are at risk from fishing line, etc. Could be worth a shot. Especially if you can actually find one wrapped in fishing line. Quote Link to post
mart02 5 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I've signed it but I honestly don't think it will do much good. You've got to restock from the bottom of the food chain first, not put back the predator at the top, and hope for the best. When you think that a single pair of otters will eat 3kg of fish a day, thats a tonne a year, so you can imagine what they can do to a small fishery. Quote Link to post
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