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Mr Muddy

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  1. Mr Muddy

    Live Catch , Mole Trap

    I had a go at making a couple of live traps out of wire bird ‘peanut’ feeders with a tin one-way catflap style door on either end - a bit like the plastic live traps you see on ebay. My plan was to stake them in the mole tunnels, with the wire on the bottom pushed a little bit into the earth, and then use a bobbin on a rat snare style set up to see when the mole was caught. The bobbin would have a groove cut in it and would be hooked through the top of the wire trap under the turf. When the mole was caught he would knock the bobbin free and it would spring up on the rat snare and I’d sit quietly and wait – a bit like going fishing. So far I’ve never had a chance/reason to give them a try, but I recon they’d work. I was going to keep this idea to myself, but I’ve just read E.T’s post on the ‘Moaning About Mole Catching, Topics’ thread where he pointed out that some people learn a lot from this forum, then they get annoyed with some self-styled wise old sages or someone pretending to be something they’re not. They then throw their toys out of the pram and bugger off without giving anything back. Well I’m big enough to say I’m probably a bit guilty of that myself. So, if anyone’s interested, there’s my idea for a live mole trap by way of an apology.
  2. Mr Muddy

    Friesian Live Traps.

    Thanks ET, That's about all I managed to discover too.
  3. Friesian live traps: They’re mentioned a couple of times in something I’ve been reading, but I can’t seem to find more information on them. Are there any trap experts on here that can give me some insight? Thanks.
  4. I’m in the south east mate, and if I miss a call or don’t immediately answer an email someone else will have the job within 5 minutes, so don’t ever think there’s any shortage of molecatchers here, there are more than enough. Good luck with going full-time, hope it all turns out well.
  5. Mr Muddy

    Koro Trap.....

    Thanks, I was thinking along the lines of an L-shaped tunnel; to stop enything entering from the left. Not that it's going to affect me, I generaly only trap rats & moles - still plenty of traps for them. Glad you posted the picture though, very interesting.
  6. Mr Muddy

    Koro Trap.....

    I'm guessing that's probably going to have to be set in a tunnel or box if it's aproved, would that be right?
  7. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    Of course it does, no one is disputing that. In your original post on your costings, you stated that the job will cost you. So a wasp job might cost you: Travel = £10 Tech Time = £15 Office Time = £5 Materials = £1 Sundries = £18 Total Cost = £49-00 £49-00 is what it cost you to do the job !!!! Does enyone still think £36 is a sensible price to charge? Lets look what it actually cost you. As you stated travel was at £1 a mile I will take it the total mileage for the job was 10 miles. £4.50 and that includes everything to do with your transport. Office time £5 Materials 50p The sundries, lets say you have new gear every year @ £360 and you only do 50 wasp nests a year. £7.20. So to do the job it has actually cost you £17.20. You will now say about the tech monies. As a sole trader you are the tech, their monies unless you are subbing out is your remuneration for the job IT IS NOT A COST. What you want to work for an hour is up to you. The way you are costing is false, if you are doing the jobs yourself. If you are subbing out to other people then fair enough you can then factor in what you pay them as a cost. At the end of the year, no matter how you cost it you will have a top line. you deduct all your deductibles from it and what is left is your profit and as a sole trader you wages for doing the job is not deductible. All your drawings go towards your profit less deductions. TC Thank you for taking the time to explain that TC, believe it or not I do appreciate it – and infinitely more then simply being told I’m talking bollox. In the context of my example of what ‘a wasp job might cost you’ I think adding the cost of the tech as paid staff is justified, if only to emphasize the point that any job is more complicated than just X amount of time on site for Y amount of money. And I think small PCO’s generally under-charge. In regards to mileage; I don’t see why I wouldn’t round it up to £1 per mile; it’s not a tax return. And as for the part-time-wanabe who’s suggested 50p for office costs; if you’re having calls direct to your mobile, never giving receipts and dumping your waste in the canal that might be true. For those of us who do things professionally £5 is nearer the mark.
  8. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    TC please; I’m not trying to justify my prices, I’m not on here looking for clients, never have been, never will be. My way of costing jobs works for me, I round everything up in my favour of course, why wouldn’t I? If someone disagrees, fine, they can do their own cost sheets – but they should at least work out their costs, because the point I’m desperately trying to get home here is that doing a wasp job costs you much, much more than the 50 pence of ficam that some of the village idiots are letting themselves believe it does.
  9. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    I can’t believe people are actually arguing the right to charge less rather than more. Says a lot about the mental state and self-worth of some people working in pest control. Suits me fine. I like weak competition
  10. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    No, I’m simply pointing out that, from one perspective, you don’t make a profit from something until it’s already paid for its self. Yes, it’s an asset; but you can’t spend assets. And yes its deductible; but you need to earn something to deduct it from. So why not add it to a costing sheet that only you’re going to see? If you take a cost per job of around £30 (so, not including the £18 sundry, if you don't think that's being honest), double it and add vat, I think you’ll come close to what I think should be the industry standard. That’s all I’m trying to say, and I think I’ve made a fair case for it.
  11. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    There is no mention of Tax anywhere in that And Tax on the profits of course mate; but it sounds like a lot of people are making a loss
  12. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    Here’s some of the things that might be on your costing sheet for even a wasps’ nest: Travel expenses @ £1 per mile (including fuel, vehicle purchase/rental, road tax & insurance, vehicle deprecation). Technician’s time (including traveling to job) @ £20 per Hour (inc; holiday, pension & employers contribution). Office time @ £25 per hour (inc; staff, heat, light, power, rent, rates). Materials Sundries – this is really important; say I bought all the kit to do wasps (bee suit, duster, mask, etc = total cost £360) and I want to make my money back in 20 jobs, I will have to add £18 to each job. So a wasp job might cost you: Travel = £10 Tech Time = £15 Office Time = £5 Materials = £1 Sundries = £18 Total Cost = £49-00 £49-00 is what it cost you to do the job !!!! Does enyone still think £36 is a sensible price to charge?
  13. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    Mate, it’s perfectly ok to charge £195 or even £1950 as long as that’s what the job’s worth – they’re all different. I.M.O. if you do a site visit & survey then give the client an itemised quote for £195, explaining what you’re charging them for and why (you’ll find templates on microsoft word, which most people already have), you’re more likely to get the job than someone who just says “yeah, rats is 90 quid mate” over the phone. When you see the costs broken down into time, travel, materials, etc you’ll probably realise you’ve been under-charging all along.
  14. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Nest Prices

    From what I’ve experienced you really want to charge more than less. When I started out I tried to be the cheapest in town – I think everyone does. After getting a couple of callbacks and realising I was just breaking even on the jobs I soon wised up. Charging a higher ‘professional’ rate allowed me to spend money on the training, insurance and equipment I needed to actually be a professional. The customers are reassured that I know what I’m doing, I’ve now got time to do the paper work properly and I’m no longer tempted to bodge things because I’m desperate to move onto the next job. What’s more; my company it now actually worth something. At the end of the day I’d rather be seen as Dick Turpin than Roy Rogers.
  15. Mr Muddy

    Wasp Numbers

    Are there dead wasps in the nest mate? They might have been feeding on something already treated with insecticide.