Otter E-Petition

[outandabout 27]

Dear Anglers,

 

 

Please take a look at this e-petition, and sign it.

 

 

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/59529

 

 

It will help a great deal if you could share this link on other websites, forums, social media etc.

 

 

If your area is not affected, please still consider signing and sharing. It's only a matter of time before they arrive...

 

 

If you are unsure of the damage they cause, a quick internet search will give you plenty of info.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

(Could this be pinned to the top please?)

Edited February 11, 2014 by ekpestcontrol

[bunny tickler 876]

i wont be signing it , i have no problem if others want too ,but when im salmon fishing they dont seem to make much difference being about ,i still catch nothing i like to see them ,i can understand fishery owners not wanting them ,i know of several terrier lads are bolting them from earths near waterways accidently whilst foxing ,they are makeing a real comeback now

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Done

[gonetoearth 5,144]

i wont be signing it , i have no problem if others want too ,but when im salmon fishing they dont seem to make much difference being about ,i still catch nothing i like to see them ,i can understand fishery owners not wanting them ,i know of several terrier lads are bolting them from earths near waterways accidently whilst foxing ,they are makeing a real comeback now

 

so there decimating fresh water stocks. And wiping out eels But you want the full protection to remain may i remind you or maybe you dont know otter hounds were NOT banned from hunting otters they BANNED them selves from hunting them as the otter was nearly wiped out NOT due to hunting but do to the over use off DDTS which got in to the eco system and was poisoning every thing from water voles to fish to birds of prey. The come back of are favorite mammles and birds are down to the banning of Pesticides and good habitat manage ment , the otter is now well established and needs to be controlled. The good thing is were otters are mink dont like to be. MODERATION. IS THE KEY. Edited February 11, 2014 by gonetoearth

[outandabout 27]

I think you summed it up perfectly there mate - "moderation is the key".

 

We all like to see them, they're a wonderful native species, I'm sure no-one wants an otter witch hunt.... But there have been many illegal releases, or poorly considered re-introductions that have meant the otter populations in certain locations are booming - and pose a serious problem.

 

They're not only a problem for fish stocks, they take birds too. A lot of rare species use wetlands, and otters will happily hunt for them - successfully.

 

Sign it or don't, but there is a big problem out there that won't get better without some form(s) of management - the petition is one of the things that might just allow the legislation to be reconsidered.

Edited February 11, 2014 by ekpestcontrol

[treecreeper 1,136]

don't go moaning when theres nothing to catch as you cant fence the rivers, hope the terriers lads dealt with them same as they would a fox.

to the op signed it a while back and the one before that

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae323/bluepanido/e7a295ac93eb54da5b35d2f97ec512e7.jpg

Edited February 11, 2014 by treecreeper

[outandabout 27]

Thanks for the image treecreeper, it is upsetting how destructive they can be. I've seen the same kind of images with wildfowl that have been killed and barely eaten. I hope the petition gains enough signatures to be considered by the powers that be.

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

ile done it...as much as i like them....by f**k their destructave ive lost hundreds and hundreds of duck to them every year we would lose sleep over witch release pond would be hit by them.....they kill them and just eat the parsons nose and pull a head off.

 

ive bolted them while foxing and the only terrier ive ever lost in action was by a otter in a ACTIVE fox earth...

 

bring back the otter hounds....

[treecreeper 1,136]

seen the same myself mate, put a fence up on our lake but its only one of a few in lancashire.

Also meant we have had to fence all other wildlife out for the sake of one.

heres one I had caught

http://www.defiantmps.com/Otter%20Carnage%201.jpg

Edited February 11, 2014 by treecreeper

[MIK 4,763]

In the river systems up here it is sawbills that are a greater concern and are devastating young salmon and seatrout ...we can shoot them on licence but the numbers they quoted us to shoot will make little differance but we conducted a smaolt sheparding programme last year basically scaring birds by using flags strategacly placed gas guns shootguns etc etc ...an adult goosander will eat 300-500grams of smolt or parr a day a parr wieghs around 6-8 grams so the numbers they take if you have large numbers of these birds on your system it has to have an effect ....hopefully in a year or 2 when these adult salmon return to our river we will see if the smolt sheparding was a success .

As for otters I know they being introduced to rivers down south which is cuasing an artifitial enviroment but up here where they naturaly breed and spread out it is not a problem as otters are a solitary animal .

Perthshire keeper there are mink packs in your area you just need to know where to find them

[bunny tickler 876]

 

i wont be signing it , i have no problem if others want too ,but when im salmon fishing they dont seem to make much difference being about ,i still catch nothing i like to see them ,i can understand fishery owners not wanting them ,i know of several terrier lads are bolting them from earths near waterways accidently whilst foxing ,they are makeing a real comeback now

so there decimating fresh water stocks. And wiping out eels But you want the full protection to remain may i remind you or maybe you dont know otter hounds were NOT banned from hunting otters they BANNED them selves from hunting them as the otter was nearly wiped out NOT due to hunting but do to the over use off DDTS which got in to the eco system and was poisoning every thing from water voles to fish to birds of prey. The come back of are favorite mammles and birds are down to the banning of Pesticides and good habitat manage ment , the otter is now well established and needs to be controlled. The good thing is were otters are mink dont like to be. MODERATION. IS THE KEY.

 

sorry for haveing an opinion that dosent suit you ,isnt it what forums are all about ,and dont bother preaching to me about nature and wildlife ive owned & worked terriers all my life , im just not a wanton killer like most ,everything has a place in nature ....even otters !

[neil cooney 10,416]

In the river systems up here it is sawbills that are a greater concern and are devastating young salmon and seatrout ...we can shoot them on licence but the numbers they quoted us to shoot will make little differance but we conducted a smaolt sheparding programme last year basically scaring birds by using flags strategacly placed gas guns shootguns etc etc ...an adult goosander will eat 300-500grams of smolt or parr a day a parr wieghs around 6-8 grams so the numbers they take if you have large numbers of these birds on your system it has to have an effect ....hopefully in a year or 2 when these adult salmon return to our river we will see if the smolt sheparding was a success .

As for otters I know they being introduced to rivers down south which is cuasing an artifitial enviroment but up here where they naturaly breed and spread out it is not a problem as otters are a solitary animal .

Perthshire keeper there are mink packs in your area you just need to know where to find them

Is that last sentence in your post not a stupid thing to say ?

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

i wont be signing it , i have no problem if others want too ,but when im salmon fishing they dont seem to make much difference being about ,i still catch nothing i like to see them ,i can understand fishery owners not wanting them ,i know of several terrier lads are bolting them from earths near waterways accidently whilst foxing ,they are makeing a real comeback now

 

so there decimating fresh water stocks. And wiping out eels But you want the full protection to remain may i remind you or maybe you dont know otter hounds were NOT banned from hunting otters they BANNED them selves from hunting them as the otter was nearly wiped out NOT due to hunting but do to the over use off DDTS which got in to the eco system and was poisoning every thing from water voles to fish to birds of prey. The come back of are favorite mammles and birds are down to the banning of Pesticides and good habitat manage ment , the otter is now well established and needs to be controlled. The good thing is were otters are mink dont like to be. MODERATION. IS THE KEY.

sorry for haveing an opinion that dosent suit you ,isnt it what forums are all about ,and dont bother preaching to me about nature and wildlife ive owned & worked terriers all my life , im just not a wanton killer like most ,everything has a place in nature ....even otters !

. Dont apologise your opinion is your opinion like mine is. Only my opinion abd no one has accused you of anything But making a comment WANTON KILLERS. LIKE MOST. WHO WOULD THAT BE AIMED AT

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

In the river systems up here it is sawbills that are a greater concern and are devastating young salmon and seatrout ...we can shoot them on licence but the numbers they quoted us to shoot will make little differance but we conducted a smaolt sheparding programme last year basically scaring birds by using flags strategacly placed gas guns shootguns etc etc ...an adult goosander will eat 300-500grams of smolt or parr a day a parr wieghs around 6-8 grams so the numbers they take if you have large numbers of these birds on your system it has to have an effect ....hopefully in a year or 2 when these adult salmon return to our river we will see if the smolt sheparding was a success .

As for otters I know they being introduced to rivers down south which is cuasing an artifitial enviroment but up here where they naturaly breed and spread out it is not a problem as otters are a solitary animal .

Perthshire keeper there are mink packs in your area you just need to know where to find them

i know of one......but ime not in perthshire any more...

[northern lad 2,292]

Don't know the first thing about Otters,just looked at the images,a 35lb carp killed by an otter....seriously on a different tac,Cormorants do far more damage to the fisheries round here...absolute nightmare,decimate fish stocks at a rate of nots