Strains

[fredofrog 9]

Does anyone on here breed a strain of terriers? i mean as in do you keep putting dogs back to each other so after a while all terriers you have are related to each other i.e inbreeding

[foxdropper 17,092]

Anybody breeding any stock of any worth in this game will be line breeding .The trick is knowing when to outcross and to what .Line breeding is basically inbreeding to a plan .

[legacy2013 52]

Their are plenty of lads on here that no what there talking about when it comes to this, whether they choose to post is up to them as most will keep the lines close to their chest so to speak.

[fredofrog 9]

yeah i agree the only way to produce consitent workers is through inbreeding and as you say dunno if people will say they do because it is looked down upon. but the only reason its got a bad name is due to people badly inbreeding and as you say outcrossing is very risky and you need to make sure you get it right.

[legacy2013 52]

well as been said, only way to do it really, as long as you do it properly you can produce generation after generation of good workers, hope you talk to somepeople with the knowledge i for one am not one of those!!

[foxdropper 17,092]

Your wording is all wrong mate.Im hoping this isnt wasted on you but here goes .Inbreeding is a term used by those who do not understand linedreeding.To go into it would be too much too soon for you i feel insofar as to say outcrossing is very necessary to stop blood becoming too tight ,as long as you know as much about the outcross as the man that bred him and it owes at least one trace to your own .To stay too tight has the unfortunate drawback of excentuating defects that come to the forefront through recessive genes and usually spells the end of further linebreeding .Record keeping is a must as is being honest with yourself and others .Get away from the word inbreeding as this implies mis management .

[fredofrog 9]

Have u practiced it yourself? as linebreeding is a long way of going round inbreeding. with inbreeding you can bring recesive genes out and dipose of them if they are bad ones which they are not nessacerily. But usually good points are pure genes.so with inbreeding it gives you a chance to dispose of the bad genes rather than covering them up.

[foxdropper 17,092]

Your talking a load of bollocks mate which is why i never went ito too deep .

[Hot Meat 3,109]

fd when line breeding animals do you start and stick to a plan, or do you play it by ear so to speak, depending on the circumstances?

[foxdropper 17,092]

You need a planof what you aim you aim to achieve and how to go about it but need to adapt as things move on .Been doing it 27 years so i might know a bit by now.lol.The main thing is keeping records as to what gelled with what and how to produce that again and again.Recessive genes work both ways producing good workers as well as misfits when the match is slightly wrong .inbreeding as i see it is the unintention union of related animals.

[fredofrog 9]

Foxdropper you do amuse me! i wonder why you resort to that talk is it because you cant go into to deep because you dont have the knowlegde? can you tell me about dominant and reccesive genes? and can you explain why inbreeding is wrong again?

[fredofrog 9]

You need a planof what you aim you aim to achieve and how to go about it but need to adapt as things move on .Been doing it 27 years so i might know a bit by now.lol.The main thing is keeping records as to what gelled with what and how to produce that again and again.Recessive genes work both ways producing good workers as well as misfits when the match is slightly wrong .inbreeding as i see it is the unintention union of related animals.

so what your saying is thats your definition of inbreeding. Not the correct definition though.The point of putting dogs back to each other i.e father to daughter then back to father again is to narrow the gene pool so you end up with less genes in the mix of what you do not want and you cannot have a strain of dogs unless they are inbred. how long have you been line breeding as you call it?

[foxdropper 17,092]

Got the meaure of you from the outset pal and its clear your not too far advanced in the brain area .I wont be explaining anything as its clear to me you are one of those twats that knows it all and seeks to educate those who really do know far more about it than your ever likely to.last post on the issue

[jeemes 3,571]

Your talking a load of bollocks mate which is why i never went ito too deep .

Please, if you have some knowledge to impart that could help others to breed better dogs why dont you just come out with it or hold your insults and let others have there say..

[marshman 7,756]

Lol had a feeling this thread would go this way , and we wonder why nobody is willing to share their knowledge !