3/4 Greyhound 1/4 Collie X Bearded Border

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

 

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

 

 

Interesting read Beast...I`ve got a 1/4 border 1/4 beardie greyhound out of Hancocks mr jones . I`ve met David Hancock but never owned a Hancock lurcher ....she was a gift off a friend and she is a very handy bitch marking /ferreting is 100% true. I have always kept border collie greyhound crosses I don't really see any beardie characteristics in her ...do you think that 1/4 beardie would show any ?

 

if only genetics worked that simply..........she's maybe thrown more to the border side but her pups may throw to the beardie, jazz has only 3/16th beardie theoretically but to look at youd think a bit more

 

 

Always liked your bitch.....proper nice sort....

[beast 1,884]

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

 

 

Interesting read Beast...I`ve got a 1/4 border 1/4 beardie greyhound out of Hancocks mr jones . I`ve met David Hancock but never owned a Hancock lurcher ....she was a gift off a friend and she is a very handy bitch marking /ferreting is 100% true. I have always kept border collie greyhound crosses I don't really see any beardie characteristics in her ...do you think that 1/4 beardie would show any ?

 

 

the jones bitch i knew was smooth coated and could have been a border cross to look at, bit taller at 24" and perhaps a stronger head but really no obvious physical beardie look. but her attitude was different, more independent but still obedient if that makes sense.

 

i think pups from a border/beardie FIRST CROSS sire are likely to be more uniform than those from a several generation cross like delboy. more mixed breeding = less predictability of pups.

[birddog 1,354]

 

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

 

 

Interesting read Beast...I`ve got a 1/4 border 1/4 beardie greyhound out of Hancocks mr jones . I`ve met David Hancock but never owned a Hancock lurcher ....she was a gift off a friend and she is a very handy bitch marking /ferreting is 100% true. I have always kept border collie greyhound crosses I don't really see any beardie characteristics in her ...do you think that 1/4 beardie would show any ?

 

 

the jones bitch i knew was smooth coated and could have been a border cross to look at, bit taller at 24" and perhaps a stronger head but really no obvious physical beardie look. but her attitude was different, more independent but still obedient if that makes sense.

 

i think pups from a border/beardie FIRST CROSS sire are likely to be more uniform than those from a several generation cross like delboy. more mixed breeding = less predictability of pups.

 

i think this is one of the reasons why hancock uses greyhound dams, because of the levelling effect........even delboys litter is fairly variable but being lurcher to lurcher thats to be expected.......the height thing, i totally agree that the beardie influence can throw taller, my mate had a 3/8 x 5/8 bitch by i think enoch that was 26" but again one of jazzs brothers was only 23 but interestingly he was smooth coated maybe thrown more to the border

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Look on his webpage at the gallery,3 completely different looking dogs all from the same sire,only one looks like him, rough coated and bearded collie type.one looks like a saluki cross the other white dog like a whippet greyhound

[wuyang 513]

I can only go on the experience of the one I owned with beardie in it compared to all my other straight border collies and border collie lurchers....so take it with a pinch of salt but this is what I found, the one with beardie in was an out and out hunting dog,,,lot higher drive to hunt and hunt further a field...nose down eyes up all the time. A lot of the border collie lurchers got distracted if there wasn't much scent about,the one with beardie in it would live to hunt for a scent. He was scary to watch behind a rabbit going up to a hedge, he would plough straight in, where as my others tend to hold off more, saying this he rarely got laid up in all his years. He was mad for fox even though it was something I never bothered with. Best mooching lurcher I've ever had.....very laid back at home. I would have beardie in a lurcher and can't understand why it isn't more popular.

[birddog 1,354]

wuyang you could have been describing my bitch when she was a little younger i dont know whether its the border input or just an experience thing but her early drive seems to have been tempered a little in the past 2 yr or so but she has knocked herself out and ploughed through a barbed wire fence hidden in a hedge its just as well the rough coat hides scars, i believe borderscots smart dog finn is similarily driven.....i know greyhounds themselves are driven but the beardie does add something for sure............oh and she's just as chilled out at home everyones pal for a biscuit

[beast 1,884]

yeah i would definitely agree, beardie crosses do tend to be very high drive, almost reckless, as younsters but have the brain to control themselves more as they grow up