Malt 379 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Whether or not they did have anything to do with it, I'm sure some of the Top Cop's are watching each and every Interview / public appearance and scrutinising every expression / gesture, the works. Can't comment on Portuguese Police, but I've worked with a lot of Potuguese and they come across as a strange bunch.. The details that have been released to the Public, will only be a fraction of what they actually know. Certain we're not getting every fact that's available either. Maybe even a few porkies thrown in in an attempt to get a reaction. Very true I work with 4, one is a sound very calm quiet guy but there is something you can't put ya finger on.. the other 3, two (women) are feckin weird speak aggressively and seem a little missing. The third is fuucking loopy she's been there a week and already she has made "air" pump action shotgun moves to one of the lads because he wouldn't pick up the phone f****n barking There's no argument against leaving little kids alone whilst you go off for a meal, drink whatever.... They have to live with that, I know I couldn't, your role as a parent is to protect your kids, you shouldn't leave them in a situation where you can no longer protect them IMO....hanging them, locking them up etc will not hurt as much as the knowledge you've let your child down and failed the basic Parental role of protection....as on evidence ( not hear say, conspiracies etc) they have not been charged with hurting their child, so are they not right to keep this in the public eye for ever......? So what about a babysitter mate.... Your trusting someone else but you are no longer protecting them yourself?Mal....we have a Tapas bar here too...you can still sit down to a meal ffs.... Lol Pair of daft tarts! Neither one of ya knows what a feckin Tapas bar is FLMAO :laugh: Edited to add; They should never have left them kids alone like that. But! I would pay with blood to find my kids and make as much noise as possible Been waiting on you coming on..... Now be a mate and tell old wooly chaser there that you can have a meal in a tapas bar.... LolTapas by very definition is a small dish of one type ie pulpo, chorizo in sauce etc It's a bloody meal but it ain't steak and chips, let's put it this way if Stabba went into a tapas bar he'd need two menus Right then now your here Kie, tell that drink addled, ginger, skirt wearing tight arse what else goes on in Tapas Bars besides eating? Malt I told thee sheep shaggin does NOT happen in tapas bars...... but ya can have a small tipple Small tipple?? Well f**k knows what the were putting in the chorizo in Correlejo, Fueteventura when I was down there years ago mate! When I was out clubbing, the people I saw coming out of them at midnight were in a worse state than me, and I was on drugs! They're an eat, drink and be merry type place ain't they mate? That's what I always thought they were anyway.. Somewhere to go on the piss and socialise with a few beers had munchies! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,056 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Whether or not they did have anything to do with it, I'm sure some of the Top Cop's are watching each and every Interview / public appearance and scrutinising every expression / gesture, the works. Can't comment on Portuguese Police, but I've worked with a lot of Potuguese and they come across as a strange bunch.. The details that have been released to the Public, will only be a fraction of what they actually know. Certain we're not getting every fact that's available either. Maybe even a few porkies thrown in in an attempt to get a reaction. Very true I work with 4, one is a sound very calm quiet guy but there is something you can't put ya finger on.. the other 3, two (women) are feckin weird speak aggressively and seem a little missing. The third is fuucking loopy she's been there a week and already she has made "air" pump action shotgun moves to one of the lads because he wouldn't pick up the phone f****n barking There's no argument against leaving little kids alone whilst you go off for a meal, drink whatever.... They have to live with that, I know I couldn't, your role as a parent is to protect your kids, you shouldn't leave them in a situation where you can no longer protect them IMO....hanging them, locking them up etc will not hurt as much as the knowledge you've let your child down and failed the basic Parental role of protection....as on evidence ( not hear say, conspiracies etc) they have not been charged with hurting their child, so are they not right to keep this in the public eye for ever......?So what about a babysitter mate.... Your trusting someone else but you are no longer protecting them yourself?Mal....we have a Tapas bar here too...you can still sit down to a meal ffs.... Lol Pair of daft tarts! Neither one of ya knows what a feckin Tapas bar is FLMAO :laugh: Edited to add; They should never have left them kids alone like that. But! I would pay with blood to find my kids and make as much noise as possible Been waiting on you coming on..... Now be a mate and tell old wooly chaser there that you can have a meal in a tapas bar.... LolTapas by very definition is a small dish of one type ie pulpo, chorizo in sauce etc It's a bloody meal but it ain't steak and chips, let's put it this way if Stabba went into a tapas bar he'd need two menus Right then now your here Kie, tell that drink addled, ginger, skirt wearing tight arse what else goes on in Tapas Bars besides eating? Malt I told thee sheep shaggin does NOT happen in tapas bars...... but ya can have a small tipple Small tipple?? Well f**k knows what the were putting in the chorizo in Correlejo, Fueteventura when I was down there years ago mate! When I was out clubbing, the people I saw coming out of them at midnight were in a worse state than me, and I was on drugs! They're an eat, drink and be merry type place ain't they mate? That's what I always thought they were anyway.. Somewhere to go on the piss and socialise with a few beers had munchies! See heres the funny thing only us Brits say "going on the piss" :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Whether or not they did have anything to do with it, I'm sure some of the Top Cop's are watching each and every Interview / public appearance and scrutinising every expression / gesture, the works. Can't comment on Portuguese Police, but I've worked with a lot of Potuguese and they come across as a strange bunch.. The details that have been released to the Public, will only be a fraction of what they actually know. Certain we're not getting every fact that's available either. Maybe even a few porkies thrown in in an attempt to get a reaction. Very true I work with 4, one is a sound very calm quiet guy but there is something you can't put ya finger on.. the other 3, two (women) are feckin weird speak aggressively and seem a little missing. The third is fuucking loopy she's been there a week and already she has made "air" pump action shotgun moves to one of the lads because he wouldn't pick up the phone f****n barking There's no argument against leaving little kids alone whilst you go off for a meal, drink whatever.... They have to live with that, I know I couldn't, your role as a parent is to protect your kids, you shouldn't leave them in a situation where you can no longer protect them IMO....hanging them, locking them up etc will not hurt as much as the knowledge you've let your child down and failed the basic Parental role of protection....as on evidence ( not hear say, conspiracies etc) they have not been charged with hurting their child, so are they not right to keep this in the public eye for ever......? So what about a babysitter mate.... Your trusting someone else but you are no longer protecting them yourself?Mal....we have a Tapas bar here too...you can still sit down to a meal ffs.... Lol Pair of daft tarts! Neither one of ya knows what a feckin Tapas bar is FLMAO :laugh: Edited to add; They should never have left them kids alone like that. But! I would pay with blood to find my kids and make as much noise as possible Been waiting on you coming on..... Now be a mate and tell old wooly chaser there that you can have a meal in a tapas bar.... LolTapas by very definition is a small dish of one type ie pulpo, chorizo in sauce etc It's a bloody meal but it ain't steak and chips, let's put it this way if Stabba went into a tapas bar he'd need two menus Right then now your here Kie, tell that drink addled, ginger, skirt wearing tight arse what else goes on in Tapas Bars besides eating? Malt I told thee sheep shaggin does NOT happen in tapas bars...... but ya can have a small tipple Small tipple?? Well f**k knows what the were putting in the chorizo in Correlejo, Fueteventura when I was down there years ago mate! When I was out clubbing, the people I saw coming out of them at midnight were in a worse state than me, and I was on drugs! They're an eat, drink and be merry type place ain't they mate? That's what I always thought they were anyway.. Somewhere to go on the piss and socialise with a few beers had munchies! Christ..... Why don't you just put "look mush' either tell that ginger c**t he's wrong or your banned"......pmsl I will accept an apology by pm if it's less embarrassing for you.. Lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending allegations Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending and seeing people who suggest they are with some Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? I bet they are legally not allowed to do so. If that was the case then why don't we do it in most legal cases and save thousands of pounds in the process. I've thought about that question a lot, especially in cases like 9/11 and other such atrocities. I reckon government officials put there foot down and say it "can't be done" for obvious reasons that would backfire on themselves...;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Hessian sack and 3 days in stress positions with added white noise makes the ultimate lie detector Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 lie detectors are not 100%and if you know wht to do,can be beaten. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
04fox8 168 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 lie detectors are not 100%and if you know wht to do,can be beaten. Could you learn the technique in 6 years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 im sure there some have done it in less. oh and if your psycopath you will beat it easy lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending and seeing people who suggest they are with some Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? I bet they are legally not allowed to do so. If that was the case then why don't we do it in most legal cases and save thousands of pounds in the process. I've thought about that question a lot, especially in cases like 9/11 and other such atrocities. I reckon government officials put there foot down and say it "can't be done" for obvious reasons that would backfire on themselves...;-) But I'm not on about the courts and for it to be used in legal matters if I was innocent I would pay for this myself and send the results to every major newspaper. Put up or shut up would be my statement to the press. I know they are not 100% accurate but most proffessionals agree they are 98% and that would do for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
04fox8 168 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending and seeing people who suggest they are with some Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? I bet they are legally not allowed to do so. If that was the case then why don't we do it in most legal cases and save thousands of pounds in the process. I've thought about that question a lot, especially in cases like 9/11 and other such atrocities. I reckon government officials put there foot down and say it "can't be done" for obvious reasons that would backfire on themselves...;-) But I'm not on about the courts and for it to be used in legal matters if I was innocent I would pay for this myself and send the results to every major newspaper. Put up or shut up would be my statement to the press. I know they are not 100% accurate but most proffessionals agree they are 98% and that would do for me. You got a point there... It would have saved the biggest half of this thread! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending and seeing people who suggest they are with some Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? I bet they are legally not allowed to do so. If that was the case then why don't we do it in most legal cases and save thousands of pounds in the process. I've thought about that question a lot, especially in cases like 9/11 and other such atrocities. I reckon government officials put there foot down and say it "can't be done" for obvious reasons that would backfire on themselves...;-)But I'm not on about the courts and for it to be used in legal matters if I was innocent I would pay for this myself and send the results to every major newspaper. Put up or shut up would be my statement to the press. I know they are not 100% accurate but most proffessionals agree they are 98% and that would do for me. And what happens if you happened to be in the 2%? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I couldn't even imagine a parent harming their own child but I know worse things have happened. Is it me or if you were in that situation would you not insist on a polygraph test to prove once and for all you were not involved and have the results published rather than paying thousands and thousands defending and seeing people who suggest they are with some Question 1 - where you involved in the disappearance of Madelane? Question 2 - do you know how was involved in the abduction? Question 3 - do you now where Madelane is now? Have both Kate and Gerry answer those three Questions and have the press publish the results. Is this too simple?? I bet they are legally not allowed to do so. If that was the case then why don't we do it in most legal cases and save thousands of pounds in the process. I've thought about that question a lot, especially in cases like 9/11 and other such atrocities. I reckon government officials put there foot down and say it "can't be done" for obvious reasons that would backfire on themselves...;-)But I'm not on about the courts and for it to be used in legal matters if I was innocent I would pay for this myself and send the results to every major newspaper. Put up or shut up would be my statement to the press.I know they are not 100% accurate but most proffessionals agree they are 98% and that would do for me. And what happens if you happened to be in the 2%? I think the 2% are results that are inconclusive as clear results couldn't be obtained but as I say 98% will do for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Polygraph tests are bullshit. The only way they work is if the person taking the test believes they can actually detect lies. It's not the machine detecting lies but the operator looking at the stress responses, and making that assumption. They might be entertaining when the muppets on Jeremy Kyle get called out but they're about as much scientific worth as Gillian McKeith digging through your shit. Refusing a polygraph isn't an admission of guilt. It's common sense. That machine can be made to say whatever the operator wants it to say, which is why they're inadmissible in any legal court. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Polygraph tests are bullshit. The only way they work is if the person taking the test believes they can actually detect lies. It's not the machine detecting lies but the operator looking at the stress responses, and making that assumption. They might be entertaining when the muppets on Jeremy Kyle get called out but they're about as much scientific worth as Gillian McKeith digging through your shit. Refusing a polygraph isn't an admission of guilt. It's common sense. That machine can be made to say whatever the operator wants it to say, which is why they're inadmissible in any legal court. When you have a polygraph test they ask you two questions at the begining of the test, these are called controls any variation from those controls are classed as you not telling the truth. The offical figures for the accuracy of the test are between and 99% accurate. But as the above post states it is in the intrpretation of the operator and the controls that were set at the begining of the test. https://www.antipolygraph.org/ TC Edited October 9, 2013 by tiercel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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