Eddie Chapman Russells

[J Darcy 5,871]

At the end of the day, the bloke is not here to defend himself. He has spent his lifetime hunting , working hounds and terriers. OK, his terriers/methods may not be everyones cup of tea, but the old lads a veteran now and probably dug more than most....maybe its time to leave this thread and let it die......

IF people want to buy one of his pups then its up to them, they have been warned now.......

 

I have both books by EC and i think they are in the top league of terrierbooks, and its nice to read a man that is dedicated to his own type of dog....

I would hope, one day, to have a conversation with the man for i bet he would be a mine of information, tales and stories....

 

Let us not forget, that in many instances a "hunt" terrier "may" be different from a non-hunt terrier.....

 

Its all about the job needed to be performed by the dog ............and ...........standards....

 

Good hunting to all.....JD

[shotup 9]

i think it does young lads good to get a bit of shite to start off first , you wouldnt throw the keys to your son of a brand new car the day he passed his test would you, i hope not just give him a banger to wreck and its like that with dogs,fowl pigeons etc if they are very keen and are in it for the long term then its start at the bottom and learn and they will soon progress to better stuff and be able to spot shite later on and bullshitters. as for mass breeders then they just breed for the big hole that needs filling if you want to dip and try one then its up to them but if your really serious about being on a differant level you will soon learn where to go to get the right terriers but you will have to wait as they dont mass breed these. best are useually given and cant be bought.my old man never charged for nowt but we grew up proper poor and there,s a saying that sticks in my throat its eaten bread is soon forgoten and he,s a decent bloke doesnt put food in kids bellies so i dont knock any breeders trying to put bread on the table. if you want proper stock then you should know it from shite.

[Bosun11 537]

Yep, gotta agree JD

[Guest SHOT]

i think it does young lads good to get a bit of shite to start off first , you wouldnt throw the keys to your son of a brand new car the day he passed his test would you, i hope not just give him a banger to wreck and its like that with dogs,fowl pigeons etc if they are very keen and are in it for the long term then its start at the bottom and learn and they will soon progress to better stuff and be able to spot shite later on and bullshitters. as for mass breeders then they just breed for the big hole that needs filling if you want to dip and try one then its up to them but if your really serious about being on a differant level you will soon learn where to go to get the right terriers but you will have to wait as they dont mass breed these. best are useually given and cant be bought.my old man never charged for nowt but we grew up proper poor and there,s a saying that sticks in my throat its eaten bread is soon forgoten and he,s a decent bloke doesnt put food in kids bellies so i dont knock any breeders trying to put bread on the table. if you want proper stock then you should know it from shite.

What rubbish

[elisderyn 496]

Our game is Horses for courses.........I understand M.1's problems with breeders but they have always exsisted , You really learn by your mistakes in this game & after shelling out a few quid & then having it bite you on the arse is part of the learning curve Im afraid on the other hand a yappy little bolting russell may be perfect for certain people....???.......Im certainly no disciple mate... ........I just recognise that Ed has vast experience with the terriers & digging & although his ideals are nothing like mine I respect that what he does is his buisness , as simple as that really..........

My patt "Charlie" & A chapman bred russell who we dug to a few times last season.............2 dogs with work styles at totally opposite ends of the spectrum !!!!

[spindolero 1,121]

Nice to see 'The Punisher' still at it Taff

[m.r1 7]

i think it does young lads good to get a bit of shite to start off first , you wouldnt throw the keys to your son of a brand new car the day he passed his test would you, i hope not just give him a banger to wreck and its like that with dogs,fowl pigeons etc if they are very keen and are in it for the long term then its start at the bottom and learn and they will soon progress to better stuff and be able to spot shite later on and bullshitters. as for mass breeders then they just breed for the big hole that needs filling if you want to dip and try one then its up to them but if your really serious about being on a differant level you will soon learn where to go to get the right terriers but you will have to wait as they dont mass breed these. best are useually given and cant be bought.my old man never charged for nowt but we grew up proper poor and there,s a saying that sticks in my throat its eaten bread is soon forgoten and he,s a decent bloke doesnt put food in kids bellies so i dont knock any breeders trying to put bread on the table. if you want proper stock then you should know it from shite.

 

Well said, that apears to be the problem of today, the youngsters want it now, must be the best and money no problem, but dont give the in put

 

Good hunting

[TOPPER 1,809]

mr 1 i think that about sums it up the kids today want it yesterday money no object they all want to be famous before there out of nappys but we have to shoulder some of the blame for this as this is the way this generation were brought up with the help of the dogooder society

[Guest SHOT]

Topper im amazed you dare comment on the wrongs/rights and the error of folks ways.

your a major part of whats wrong today.

you breed from a shotty little bitch barely 2/3 years old done nothing! because it was out of some bitch called "chance" blah blah.

then theres the sire then not supprisingly you keep nothing back for yourself.

you should have culled the lot!

edited to add reading back again i suppose there is some value to come out of being ripped off, god knows ive spent enough money on shit and been sucked in..

but when i think about younguns my lad included whos just trying to get into it,id sooner keep them winning and help them out where possible far more productive i think.

Edited September 4, 2007 by SHOT

[TOPPER 1,809]

whats shotty? and yes i bred out of a tryed and tested and as i understand it from afew of the pups owners that could be bothered to wait and bring them on they are doing all right ,there still to young for the big stuff yet but everybodys happy bar you as i said i would have had them back and ran them on myself . boring now its everyone to there own and if you didnt like them you didnt have to have them in the first place

[m.r1 7]

Topper im amazed you dare comment on the wrongs/rights and the error of folks ways.

your a major part of whats wrong today.

you breed from a shotty little bitch barely 2/3 years old done nothing! because it was out of some bitch called "chance" blah blah.

then theres the sire then not supprisingly you keep nothing back for yourself.

you should have culled the lot!

edited to add reading back again i suppose there is some value to come out of being ripped off, god knows ive spent enough money on shit and been sucked in..

but when i think about younguns my lad included whos just trying to get into it,id sooner keep them winning and help them out where possible far more productive i think.

 

 

Good thing with this site, no hiding places and we can all comment, carry on!

[J Darcy 5,871]

[Guest grubygrafter]

At the end of the day, the bloke is not here to defend himself. He has spent his lifetime hunting , working hounds and terriers. OK, his terriers/methods may not be everyones cup of tea, but the old lads a veteran now and probably dug more than most....maybe its time to leave this thread and let it die......

IF people want to buy one of his pups then its up to them, they have been warned now.......

 

I have both books by EC and i think they are in the top league of terrierbooks, and its nice to read a man that is dedicated to his own type of dog....

I would hope, one day, to have a conversation with the man for i bet he would be a mine of information, tales and stories....

 

Let us not forget, that in many instances a "hunt" terrier "may" be different from a non-hunt terrier.....

 

Its all about the job needed to be performed by the dog ............and ...........standards....

 

Good hunting to all.....JD

 

exellent post. i totally agree.

[higgins 75]

mr 1 do you have any pictures of your dogs at all that you could post up?

Mr.1 can we see some pics of your dogs,please,maybe not the freshly bitten ones,but the type

you work and that dosen't cause offence to the antis,i'm sure everone who has been following this thread with great interest would agree with me,if it's not too much trouble,good hunting,

Higgins.

[Guest Leveller]

I know Eddie and I have done for a few years now he wouldn't fit in with the stuff that goes on now and he knows it, he hasn't the same interest in his dogs now as all he wants to do is fish, fish and more fishing. It doesn't mean he has nothing to offer and he has plenty of intresting tales, he's a character and a mate. He'll probably never dig to a dog again by his own admission he has people cueing up to take him out with offers of " I'll do the digging " etc; etc; but he isn't intrested if he can't do the whole job properly he won't do it at all!

The breeding and showing is mostly done by his wife and she seems to succeed well in that side of things so fair play to her.

 

Recently Eddie said to me in light of the ban " I saw the best days of digging in my time " whatever your views on the bloke I think he's spot on with that comment and he probably has seen the best days there were no such things as prosecutions and antis were few and far between.

 

He's a good bloke and he's done enough in my book to live his days out how he pleases.........