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[snoopdog 1,255]

what would you say the best way is to build stamina in a dog ....training wise ?????

[Guest joe ox]

:sick: went to bed.

Edited August 17, 2007 by joe ox

[snoopdog 1,255]

well marbrick you have bred dogs for over forty years you teel me how you build your dogs stamina up ?????

[Guest markbrick1]

well marbrick you have bred dogs for over forty years you teel me how you build your dogs stamina up ?????

ITS THE BREEDING AND THE EXERCISE,BUT ITS THE CORRECT INGREDIANTS

[snoopdog 1,255]

yes but lets say we have the breeding e.g collie ..or saluki we have the right ingrediants how would you get that dog to the best of its abilaty stamina wise if you know what iam saying ...??road work or ????iam not good with words at explaining things.... better with my mouth but you get my jist off things how would you prepare a dog for the season ???

[Guest markbrick1]

yes but lets say we have the breeding e.g collie ..or saluki we have the right ingrediants how would you get that dog to the best of its abilaty stamina wise if you know what iam saying ...??road work or ????iam not good with words at explaining things.... better with my mouth but you get my jist off things how would you prepare a dog for the season ???

OK ,SLAG ME OF AS THATS WHAT YOURE GOING TO DO???? BUT I KEEP MINE FIT ALL YR ROUND THERE RUNING 4 MILES A DAY AT THE SIDE OF THE LANDY AND LAMPING ONCE ARE TWICE A WK IN SUMMER,MARK AND DOING WELL AT THE SHOW RACING

[snoopdog 1,255]

what do you mean slag you off .you jumped on this post calling people thick as shit and i took that you ment me aswell seen as iam on this thread ....you might have been running dogs longer than i have ..so have a lot off people . but if you think i know feck all then thats your opinion and you are wellcome to it but dont call me a prick ..i tell you what i do no mark .and thats how to get the best out of a dog maybe that dog isnt a world beater but i know how to get a dog fit and i know when a dog has had enough ...iam still learning like we all are and i still make mistakes ....and the question i asked you is impossible to answer because evey dog is different and each dog responds in different ways in getting them fit ....you do to much of one thing it can build up to much muscle which can hinder a dog in stamina and speed ect ect ...its all about knowing the dog you have at the time .......all the best snoop ..

[Guest markbrick1]

what do you mean slag you off .you jumped on this post calling people thick as shit and i took that you ment me aswell seen as iam on this thread ....you might have been running dogs longer than i have ..so have a lot off people . but if you think i know feck all then thats your opinion and you are wellcome to it but dont call me a prick ..i tell you what i do no mark .and thats how to get the best out of a dog maybe that dog isnt a world beater but i know how to get a dog fit and i know when a dog has had enough ...iam still learning like we all are and i still make mistakes ....and the question i asked you is impossible to answer because evey dog is different and each dog responds in different ways in getting them fit ....you do to much of one thing it can build up to much muscle which can hinder a dog in stamina and speed ect ect ...its all about knowing the dog you have at the time .......all the best snoop ..

ALL THE BEST MARK

[Guest SKINNER]

AND SNOOP I THINK YOUR AS THICK AS SHIT WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING LURCHERS,HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN INTO THE BREED?????????????MARK

 

You say youve had running dogs for over 40 years Mark, how old are you? 42 Were you running dogs when you were still in nappies?

[juckler123 707]

What a thread not many realise theres two different types of wind in salukis and collie xs shaun v got it in one theres a difference in short lamping runs which a collie type excells at then theres wind and speed together with endurance that the salukis blessed with you can argue forever but in the day the saluki hybrids will always rule and at night give me a collie blooded dog.

If you want an alrounder you will never beat a good bit of both

[Guest markbrick1]

skinner,it was very inapropiate of me to say that to snoops,i therefore appolagise to him,now ive said ive been into lurchers for over 40 yrs of which i have,no body knows my age of which sometimes i forget my self and isnt appropiate to put on a public forum,all the best mark

[Sorley x 32]

Stamina...stamina...most of the people on this forum including me could run a marathon if we would be properly conditioned, build up the exercise and have the appropriate diet for it...the same goes for dogs probably...but it will be easier for some of us cause of the differences in the way we're built...

 

L.

 

 

Totally

 

It is why we have different people excelling at differing tracke events. Carl lewis has probably been the greatest track sprinter of our generation (well mine - some of yous lot may need to ask your parents). Any way he was an out and out sprinter, also long jumper.

 

there is no way in heaven or hell that he would hve stood a chance against Haile Gebrselassie over anything above 400 m.

 

Look at the build of the two atheletes....they are not built the same. Just the same as a salukiand a greyhound AREN't built the same.

 

Trouble is lurcher work tends to be a bity of a hash between being and longdistance runner and a sprinter so what we want to look at is the equivalent of a decathlon athelete. Again they are a different build again.

 

But this mixing of the disciplines is where the real trouble starts. Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to be exceptional at alll disciplines - OTHERWISE Paula radcliffe would have a olympic gold over the 100m in her cupboard.

 

In short something has to give - and when it does you get individuals that are fantastic alrounders - excelling at some things and haing a weakness in others.

 

As lurcher owner/breeders we are trying to find that exceptional creature that defies physiological boundaries.

 

Collies, Bull breeds, terriers, salukis, greyhounds all have exceptional qualities. We are just trying to blend the best bits as best we can.

 

A collie, as a rule, will NEVER EVER compete with a saluki in distance running at pace.

THEN AGAIN

A Saluki, as a rile, will NEVER EVER win one man and his dog.

then NEITHER will win a ratting competition or draw a fox.

 

Most rational adults can except this and enjoy the dog they have for what it does.

 

A fool would buy a 3/4 saluki / 1/4 greyhound if all he/she wanted to do was use the dog alongside ferrets and out longnetting.

 

Then again it would be a special kind of idiot that would take a reverse 3/4 collie and head off to lincolnnshire with a roll of match cash and expect to come home with anything other than a lot less cash.

 

YES there are dogs who buck these trends to a degree but a specialist will in its field always win.

 

What muddies the waters more than anything else is you and I, us. We have such a huge impact on that 8 week old bundle we pick-up.

 

I am not talking about turning a sows ear into a silk purse. BUT in the right hands and average dog can look bloody good and in the wrong hands a perfect animal can be reduced to a shabby performer.

 

The trouble is that human nature means that we tend to blame the tools - - our dogs. But how many times on here have you read that so and so KNOWs how to bring a dog on on words to that effect.....................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

VERY F##KING RARELY.

 

(yeah yeah we know who the exceptions are)

 

 

 

 

 

Sh1te I really have banged on a bit. sorry.

[Guest joe ox]

Stamina...stamina...most of the people on this forum including me could run a marathon if we would be properly conditioned, build up the exercise and have the appropriate diet for it...the same goes for dogs probably...but it will be easier for some of us cause of the differences in the way we're built...

 

L.

 

 

Totally

 

It is why we have different people excelling at differing tracke events. Carl lewis has probably been the greatest track sprinter of our generation (well mine - some of yous lot may need to ask your parents). Any way he was an out and out sprinter, also long jumper.

 

there is no way in heaven or hell that he would hve stood a chance against Haile Gebrselassie over anything above 400 m.

 

Look at the build of the two atheletes....they are not built the same. Just the same as a salukiand a greyhound AREN't built the same.

 

Trouble is lurcher work tends to be a bity of a hash between being and longdistance runner and a sprinter so what we want to look at is the equivalent of a decathlon athelete. Again they are a different build again.

 

But this mixing of the disciplines is where the real trouble starts. Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to be exceptional at alll disciplines - OTHERWISE Paula radcliffe would have a olympic gold over the 100m in her cupboard.

 

In short something has to give - and when it does you get individuals that are fantastic alrounders - excelling at some things and haing a weakness in others.

 

As lurcher owner/breeders we are trying to find that exceptional creature that defies physiological boundaries.

 

Collies, Bull breeds, terriers, salukis, greyhounds all have exceptional qualities. We are just trying to blend the best bits as best we can.

 

A collie, as a rule, will NEVER EVER compete with a saluki in distance running at pace.

THEN AGAIN

A Saluki, as a rile, will NEVER EVER win one man and his dog.

then NEITHER will win a ratting competition or draw a fox.

 

Most rational adults can except this and enjoy the dog they have for what it does.

 

A fool would buy a 3/4 saluki / 1/4 greyhound if all he/she wanted to do was use the dog alongside ferrets and out longnetting.

 

Then again it would be a special kind of idiot that would take a reverse 3/4 collie and head off to lincolnnshire with a roll of match cash and expect to come home with anything other than a lot less cash.

 

YES there are dogs who buck these trends to a degree but a specialist will in its field always win.

 

What muddies the waters more than anything else is you and I, us. We have such a huge impact on that 8 week old bundle we pick-up.

 

I am not talking about turning a sows ear into a silk purse. BUT in the right hands and average dog can look bloody good and in the wrong hands a perfect animal can be reduced to a shabby performer.

 

The trouble is that human nature means that we tend to blame the tools - - our dogs. But how many times on here have you read that so and so KNOWs how to bring a dog on on words to that effect.....................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

VERY F##KING RARELY.

 

(yeah yeah we know who the exceptions are)

 

 

 

 

 

Sh1te I really have banged on a bit. sorry.

 

Excellent post sorley x. The right tools for the job makes easy work

[Butler 396]

Have spoke with Joe through pm's and we have sorted this crap out I couldn't see any harm in the question i posted and still can't, but if i coursed the lad who's dog it was about any insult i apologize :kiss: But i still think you lads are too easily offended and need to chill a bit lots of things on these boards come across in a different way to what they are meant.

[Guest joe ox]

Have spoke with Joe through pm's and we have sorted this crap out I couldn't see any harm in the question i posted and still can't, but if i coursed the lad who's dog it was about any insult i apologize :kiss: But i still think you lads are too easily offended and need to chill a bit lots of things on these boards come across in a different way to what they are meant.

 

Apology accepted