Lab 10,979 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 That forestry is ideal for a gos to take up residence in.. The ultimate winged killer , only place I saw them up there was near the tip at the back of Newburgh. Aye they could quite happily live on the pigeons that roost there mate. Newburgh aint that far away i suppose. Its the same with the Kite i saw a while back eating a rabbit.......never saw it again either. Just never know whats out there.......apart from Big Cats we all know theres f**k all off them going about... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,191 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well over there we had buzzards all over, actually really nice to watch shame they make a meal of the poults, some kind of owl, goshawks, crows/ravens and other small birds of prey. The poults that were dead were only nipped on the back of the neck and had no other injuries ie decapitation like a fox might do, so what else would you lads reckon would knack that many poults like that? Obviously it was a guess by the headkeeper but ya bugger when them two goshawks came over the next night "i f*****g told ya so!!" :laugh:mink.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 That forestry is ideal for a gos to take up residence in.. The ultimate winged killer , only place I saw them up there was near the tip at the back of Newburgh. Aye they could quite happily live on the pigeons that roost there mate. Newburgh aint that far away i suppose. Its the same with the Kite i saw a while back eating a rabbit.......never saw it again either. Just never know whats out there.......apart from Big Cats we all know theres f**k all off them going about... Some animals are so difficult to glimpse that they're like spirits. One could live a lifetime in these woods and never see a lynx. The cat must roam hundreds of miles in search of prey and may never visit the same patch of seasonal forest twice. It's the very essence of wilderness............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,191 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 buzzards will come to your relese pens at first light......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well over there we had buzzards all over, actually really nice to watch shame they make a meal of the poults, some kind of owl, goshawks, crows/ravens and other small birds of prey. The poults that were dead were only nipped on the back of the neck and had no other injuries ie decapitation like a fox might do, so what else would you lads reckon would knack that many poults like that? Obviously it was a guess by the headkeeper but ya bugger when them two goshawks came over the next night "i f*****g told ya so!!" :laugh:mink.. Not sure but the release pen was at least 500 metres from the nearest water source...never saw a mink either just stone martens, may have been one of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I once asked a " Head Keeper " about some certain Juby Traps. He said; " What's a 'Juby Trap'?! " And, right there, I saw what the Game Keeping world had come to. Now, we have hawks which fly by night? Birds which " smash " poults. And kill 150 of them, after dark, with a " Nip to the back of the neck ". What? And then wing it off into the darkness? Giggling and flipping the feather at the Keeper, I s'pose. All in a nights fun for your typical Goshawk. FFS. I expect is that same, learned and seasoned (Plastic) Head Keeper found a round blanket of feathers and a couple of bits of bloody bone, he'd nod his head sagely and intone, " Bloody ferret, lad! ". 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,677 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pip1968 2,490 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Couldnt agree with that with Buzzards...............plenty times ive seen them kill 2/3 birds and only eat one. Fair enough normally being young poults introduced to a pen and its easy picking rather than fun i would agree but they still take there chance. Couldnt see them burning energy chasing things like pigeons around for fun though...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Couldnt agree with that with Buzzards...............plenty times ive seen them kill 2/3 birds and only eat one. Fair enough normally being young poults introduced to a pen and its easy picking rather than fun i would agree but they still take there chance. Couldnt see them burning energy chasing things like pigeons around for fun though...... they tend to ambush much the same as sparrowhawks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Couldnt agree with that with Buzzards...............plenty times ive seen them kill 2/3 birds and only eat one. Fair enough normally being young poults introduced to a pen and its easy picking rather than fun i would agree but they still take there chance. Couldnt see them burning energy chasing things like pigeons around for fun though...... they tend to ambush much the same as sparrowhawks They just sit in the tree and drop on them mate.........young poults have never seen anything like that so its easy for them. Within no time though the poults have sussed out there a danger...you soon know when you turn up to your pen if you are having problems with a BOP, all the birds are hiding.... Its also another reason why you should not have straight line feed rides in your pens so Spars cant get a alley to strike in, better off having it like a zig zag.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Couldnt agree with that with Buzzards...............plenty times ive seen them kill 2/3 birds and only eat one. Fair enough normally being young poults introduced to a pen and its easy picking rather than fun i would agree but they still take there chance. Couldnt see them burning energy chasing things like pigeons around for fun though...... they tend to ambush much the same as sparrowhawks They just sit in the tree and drop on them mate.........young poults have never seen anything like that so its easy for them. Within no time though the poults have sussed out there a danger...you soon know when you turn up to your pen if you are having problems with a BOP, all the birds are hiding.... Its also another reason why you should not have straight line feed rides in your pens so Spars cant get a alley to strike in, better off having it like a zig zag.... i went to do some ratting in a release pen the other year, there was cd`s dangling everywhere, and the biggest pair of painted eyes over the main gate, Guess what was sat on top...............................A fooking buzzard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly! Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before Goshawks do not hunt at night accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel Couldnt agree with that with Buzzards...............plenty times ive seen them kill 2/3 birds and only eat one. Fair enough normally being young poults introduced to a pen and its easy picking rather than fun i would agree but they still take there chance. Couldnt see them burning energy chasing things like pigeons around for fun though...... they tend to ambush much the same as sparrowhawks They just sit in the tree and drop on them mate.........young poults have never seen anything like that so its easy for them. Within no time though the poults have sussed out there a danger...you soon know when you turn up to your pen if you are having problems with a BOP, all the birds are hiding.... Its also another reason why you should not have straight line feed rides in your pens so Spars cant get a alley to strike in, better off having it like a zig zag.... i went to do some ratting in a release pen the other year, there was cd`s dangling everywhere, and the biggest pair of painted eyes over the main gate, Guess what was sat on top...............................A fooking buzzard ....I quite believe it. They soon learn that its nothing to worry about. The problem i think with Buzzards they are that common that they are not exactly shy so a glinting CD turning in the wind is no worry to it. I could see the CD thing working more on Spars are they are very wary....infact you can go about your keepering duties and not really ever see one and the first day you put poults in theres one killed one of your birds.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,191 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Well over there we had buzzards all over, actually really nice to watch shame they make a meal of the poults, some kind of owl, goshawks, crows/ravens and other small birds of prey. The poults that were dead were only nipped on the back of the neck and had no other injuries ie decapitation like a fox might do, so what else would you lads reckon would knack that many poults like that? Obviously it was a guess by the headkeeper but ya bugger when them two goshawks came over the next night "i f*****g told ya so!!" :laugh:mink.. Not sure but the release pen was at least 500 metres from the nearest water source...never saw a mink either just stone martens, may have been one of them mink dont need to be near water,,same as otter,,they travel alot,,spring time..watched an otter hunting rabbit burrows last year, a good way from water.... a pair of mink killed over two hundred poults over two nights last year, down at a mate of mine in suffolk.... frustrating little twxts.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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