gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 im wrong in the hounds and guns because im inexsperienced and havent been out of the south west really ............i was only judgeing by what i seen and fook me not alot or as much as others , but were all learning all the time and i have my opionions and respect a tradition that is slowly dieing out .............but i will stay strong for what i believe.........and when people come on here trying to get foxhounds from others with no intention of hunting as a pack and for own leisure it upsets me a little because a fox hound is for pack work and belongs to hunts and this is the exact reason why there hard to get hold of........if everyman who hunted old reynard used fox hounds it wouldnt take long before the injunctions and laws would change too keep these marvellous animals out of the hands of people trying to do a bit on there own,.........theres reasons why there a pack animal and to be honest i think it should stay that way,........no better sound in the world than a pack in full flight and on a good line even the mounted hunters cant keep up with them,...........and thats where followers and supporters of the hunt plays there role ,..for one to protect the hounds and secondly to make sure there all in the lorry until next time,..............and i will end here and say good post alimac and i know what i prefer aswell............ what ever you choose ,..enjoy your sport and more importantly the welfare of the dogs.... AINT DOGS SIR THEY ARE HOUNDS 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I have and never will support the random ownership of foxhounds , but there are many small packs with great tradition and who provide an exerlent service to farmers and keepers alike who flush to guns. In the uk and eire. And long may it continue. GTE 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CorkyJohn 808 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Of the packs I have hunted with only one would I say do a real pest control job. Not knocking the rest but one in particular, if a keeper/farmer insists on foxes killed then that is what should be done, shame some find the mounted followers should be kept happy before the landowners. There isn't anything to match a full pack hunting, but personally a hill pack for me. To say that hounds should only 'belong' to reg packs is absolute bollocks & shows the dividing attitude that is constantly met by private packs Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Of the packs I have hunted with only one would I say do a real pest control job. Not knocking the rest but one in particular, if a keeper/farmer insists on foxes killed then that is what should be done, shame some find the mounted followers should be kept happy before the landowners. There isn't anything to match a full pack hunting, but personally a hill pack for me. To say that hounds should only 'belong' to reg packs is absolute bollocks & shows the dividing attitude that is constantly met by private packs no any one can hunt them as a pack registered or not ,.............as long as they are part of a pack and there hunted correctly money or forms don't come into it ,..........imo . GTE I will give you fooking hounds when I catch up with you down bodmin ,.............ware your finest attire ,.......it will be a date love....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Am down that way soon. We will meet. At the jamaccy. In. Youg fella me lad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wheaten 47 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stando 177 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. not just that you will end up with shite no one will give/sell good hound pups or in there prime......your only chance would be trying to get a couple of old ones what have slowed up but were a good hound in there day and breed........a bitch and dog and keep a couple and bring them on with the older ones after the puppy stage........I don't agree with it but your going to be struggling to get a decent strain of fox hound..............at the end of there working days a lot of hunts would sooner shoot them than pass them on to people trying to hunt one couple......even pup walkers want them back at the end of there working life and its a big no no ,......for this exact reason of them getting into the wrong hands .......some serving 7/8 seasons of graph as a pack would sulk out of the pack regime and its for there best interest to be culled ..... to be honest im glad there like rocking horse shite ........................its for the best interest of man and hound....... Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. not just that you will end up with shite no one will give/sell good hound pups or in there prime......your only chance would be trying to get a couple of old ones what have slowed up but were a good hound in there day and breed........a bitch and dog and keep a couple and bring them on with the older ones after the puppy stage........I don't agree with it but your going to be struggling to get a decent strain of fox hound..............at the end of there working days a lot of hunts would sooner shoot them than pass them on to people trying to hunt one couple......even pup walkers want them back at the end of there working life and its a big no no ,......for this exact reason of them getting into the wrong hands .......some serving 7/8 seasons of graph as a pack would sulk out of the pack regime and its for there best interest to be culled .....to be honest im glad there like rocking horse shite ........................its for the best interest of man and hound....... . Fook me thats the most sencible thing you have said. Mr whippy. Lol Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. not just that you will end up with shite no one will give/sell good hound pups or in there prime......your only chance would be trying to get a couple of old ones what have slowed up but were a good hound in there day and breed........a bitch and dog and keep a couple and bring them on with the older ones after the puppy stage........I don't agree with it but your going to be struggling to get a decent strain of fox hound..............at the end of there working days a lot of hunts would sooner shoot them than pass them on to people trying to hunt one couple......even pup walkers want them back at the end of there working life and its a big no no ,......for this exact reason of them getting into the wrong hands .......some serving 7/8 seasons of graph as a pack would sulk out of the pack regime and its for there best interest to be culled .....to be honest im glad there like rocking horse shite ........................its for the best interest of man and hound....... . Fook me thats the most sencible thing you have said. Mr whippy. Lol cnut Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Shaun b we run 5 couple of foxhounds and its fantastic! only problem is getting someone to give you some like people say not many registered packs will give you any as they don't want pirate packs popping up here there and everywhere. not just that you will end up with shite no one will give/sell good hound pups or in there prime......your only chance would be trying to get a couple of old ones what have slowed up but were a good hound in there day and breed........a bitch and dog and keep a couple and bring them on with the older ones after the puppy stage........I don't agree with it but your going to be struggling to get a decent strain of fox hound..............at the end of there working days a lot of hunts would sooner shoot them than pass them on to people trying to hunt one couple......even pup walkers want them back at the end of there working life and its a big no no ,......for this exact reason of them getting into the wrong hands .......some serving 7/8 seasons of graph as a pack would sulk out of the pack regime and its for there best interest to be culled .....to be honest im glad there like rocking horse shite ........................its for the best interest of man and hound....... . Fook me thats the most sencible thing you have said. Mr whippy. Lol cnut. Mr cnut to you Link to post Share on other sites
scotth 86 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 A couple of good hounds in a fox driving pack is a good thing if they have been bred right, here in Australia there is some decent stuff that is hot nosed, independant and biddable. Mine wont go more than a km on a fox that the shooters have missed before he comes back and looks for another, l can call him off anything if he is within earshot or a vibrate on the correction collar will stop him and bring him back into the cover but as a rule he will do it himself as that was how he was taught. Last season was a good one here and he would help push out up to 40 foxes on a days hunt, 15-20 of them directly from him casting out finding a scent then pushing to the sitters or a stag catching it that is working off him, after a bit of a scruff he would go and find another. Its like anything you write down your desired traits and breed and cull heavy untill you have what suites your style of hunting. Link to post Share on other sites
dEs 6 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Amen Whippet 99 Link to post Share on other sites
spindolero 1,109 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 A couple of good hounds in a fox driving pack is a good thing if they have been bred right, here in Australia there is some decent stuff that is hot nosed, independant and biddable. Mine wont go more than a km on a fox that the shooters have missed before he comes back and looks for another, l can call him off anything if he is within earshot or a vibrate on the correction collar will stop him and bring him back into the cover but as a rule he will do it himself as that was how he was taught. Last season was a good one here and he would help push out up to 40 foxes on a days hunt, 15-20 of them directly from him casting out finding a scent then pushing to the sitters or a stag catching it that is working off him, after a bit of a scruff he would go and find another. Its like anything you write down your desired traits and breed and cull heavy untill you have what suites your style of hunting. 40 foxes risen in a day? thats a hell of a lot Link to post Share on other sites
loafer 47 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Rightly or wrongly,theres a pair of Beagle x Welsh 8 month old on Preloved of all places if this helps anybody 100 apiece. Link to post Share on other sites
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