riohog 5,905 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 the vidio is from pakistan with pashmi or caravan hounds its a canned hunt i dont condone it atall, what has this to do with the saluki answer nothing atall Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 the vidio is from pakistan with pashmi or caravan hounds its a canned hunt i dont condone it atall, what has this to do with the saluki answer nothing atall the pashmi caravan hounds are bred from greyhounds taken over by the british raj to India in the 19 th century they have no saluki in them and were crosses of grey with gully dogs which are the Asian equivelent of mongrels they have no saluki in them. 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,905 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 the vidio is from pakistan with pashmi or caravan hounds its a canned hunt i dont condone it atall, what has this to do with the saluki answer nothing atall the pashmi caravan hounds are bred from greyhounds taken over by the british raj to India in the 19 th century they have no saluki in them and were crosses of grey with gully dogs which are the Asian equivelent of mongrels they have no saluki in them. exactly my point nothing whatsoever to do with the saluki Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 The Pasmi of today are mainly bred down from the Greys from Raj times and Afghan hounds. Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance Edited April 26, 2013 by arcticgun 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,905 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance rich , people overcomplicate the job , keep it simple . if they want a circus dog thatll do tricks , a sheepdog would be more suited to that ..salukis are hunting dogs thats what they do best 1 Quote Link to post
Paid 935 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 One thing to remember is that salukis, in there home lands, vary greatly, and cover such a vast area of differing terrain, they are not all from the desert and range over most of asia. They are used on game from rabbit, to wolf. So there is a bit of variety out there. 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 salukis have been around for approx 6,000 years , so they stood the test of time as a hunting dog and companion. if you think you cant handle one leave it to those who can .. ..saves alot of greif for the dog being passed on The post of the century!! Nearly as good as your contribution to the thread Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance rich , people overcomplicate the job , keep it simple . if they want a circus dog thatll do tricks , a sheepdog would be more suited to that ..salukis are hunting dogs thats what they do best keeping it simple often overcomplicates it though, don't it mate same old threads year in year out, 'Marmite' dogs, more a case of 'shame Ma did' in most cases, Im sort of pleased the bottoms dropped out of the market nowadays, give it a few years and there should be something worth having about, something more consistent, see what come sof that 30 odd year they be ruined as well, still be more about 'da money' Edited April 26, 2013 by arcticgun Quote Link to post
riohog 5,905 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance rich , people overcomplicate the job , keep it simple . if they want a circus dog thatll do tricks , a sheepdog would be more suited to that ..salukis are hunting dogs thats what they do best keeping it simple often overcomplicates it though, don't it mate same old threads year in year out, 'Marmite' dogs, more a case of 'shame Ma didn't' in most cases, Im sort of pleased the bottoms dropped out of the market nowadays, give it a few years and there should be something worth having about, something more consistent, see what come sof that 30 odd year they be ruined as well, still be more about 'da money' yep perhaps hopefully not the fashion statement they were when they were a grand a pup Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance rich , people overcomplicate the job , keep it simple . if they want a circus dog thatll do tricks , a sheepdog would be more suited to that ..salukis are hunting dogs thats what they do best keeping it simple often overcomplicates it though, don't it mate same old threads year in year out, 'Marmite' dogs, more a case of 'shame Ma didn't' in most cases, Im sort of pleased the bottoms dropped out of the market nowadays, give it a few years and there should be something worth having about, something more consistent, see what come sof that 30 odd year they be ruined as well, still be more about 'da money' yep perhaps hopefully not the fashion statement they were when they were a grand a pup The good old days No sooner had I bought me dog pup was I browsing luxury holiday brocures whjilst eying a new motor and stress free xmas, just my luck the recession ambles along, aww well I got the uk's most expensive living chair warmer and draft excluder , oh but he does have nice ears 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,905 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know nothing of salukis and have been told that some lack of brains and can be dumb and heard if people being put off the breed and saliki x's because of this, but on the other hand I hav seen some collie x's that are daft as brushes and not the cleverest I like the thought of a little saluki in a cross although I don't own one, but my next pup I think I'm going to go for that little bit of saluki the so called stupidity can and often is , mistaken for high intelegance, . grossly misunderstood by alot of folk ..challanging , conflict of wills .certainly not for the inpatient quote in red: I take it that this was a slip of the pen, so to speak, but very true all the same. Not saying that there aren't bad ones, seen a few, same as in any type, but most have been grossly misunderstood. Just because its a dog breed, a lot of people seem to think that a dog is a dog is a dog, and all must be treated the same. NOT! Remember talking to one bloke years ago: said he'd tried to teach it to retrieve: threw a ball, dog wouldn't pick it up, so he didn't bother again, and classed it as a non-retriever. FFS! Same thing with recall: just because a dog doesn't come to you when you call doesn't mean it is stupid. Dogs to whom the hunt is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, aren't going to just stop doing that because some tw*t calls them back, especially when historically there's seldom been any need for the dog to evolve to be recalled just for the hell of it. Salukis just aren't a domesticated animal in the sense we know it: I love that feral attitude, but it does create challenges to those that can't think outside the box when it comes to training. some excellent points on this thread, Skycat your secnd paragraph and final sentence says it all for me personaly, in a way they the same as workign with falcons and hawks , ultimately you both want the same thing , quarry in the bag, but only byy working in harmony and with great understanding from us can we share this with this type of hunting with our chosen animal, well in a stress free way lol hope this makes sense. The saluki been doing its thing for generations its a big ask for it to change what works for i, to suit us and our understanding of them, maybe better they go to people who understand em in first instance rich , people overcomplicate the job , keep it simple . if they want a circus dog thatll do tricks , a sheepdog would be more suited to that ..salukis are hunting dogs thats what they do best keeping it simple often overcomplicates it though, don't it mate same old threads year in year out, 'Marmite' dogs, more a case of 'shame Ma didn't' in most cases, Im sort of pleased the bottoms dropped out of the market nowadays, give it a few years and there should be something worth having about, something more consistent, see what come sof that 30 odd year they be ruined as well, still be more about 'da money' yep perhaps hopefully not the fashion statement they were when they were a grand a pup The good old days No sooner had I bought me dog pup was I browsing luxury holiday brocures whjilst eying a new motor and stress free xmas, just my luck the recession ambles along, aww well I got the uk's most expensive living chair warmer and draft excluder , oh but he does have nice ears well his great grandad was a fair dog Quote Link to post
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