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How the f**k did this topic become one of Whin breeding yappers? Or that he bred a dud dog? Sure he ain't ever only bred one but what that has to do wi yappers is beyond me!!! Was a simple subject - and a simple question!!! Would you keep a yapper or not... :thumbs:

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In my opinion,...Lurchers open up for various reasons... It is easy, to categorise the causes, and keep on quoting the obvious,...but, speaking personally,..over the years,.I have run dogs at a very

yapping behind quarry is born out of frustration or exitement imo...to say a dog is no good just because it yaps is a bit silly..one mans meat is another mans poison imo..i'd sooner have a yapper that

PENNYWISE.....   You would give a yapper 'the lead injection'......   but happily keep a dog that...   -Wont listen in the field. -hunts up all the time And -pulls the pudding off the quarry.

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One of the best fox catching/killing bitches i ever seen was a yapper.....she was ran on hares too early which sickened her so she started to open up...rabbits yapped like fcuk aswell as hares..only yapped the first 20yards or so on a fox then all systems go.. i reckon if your willing to put up with it then thats your choice..the bitch in question i would have owned in a breath had she been offered to me purely because she was just so good at the foxing game.

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I could put up with the odd squeak on a corner occasionally (and many dogs do for various reasons), but a full blown yodelling dog just isn't for me. :yes:
The feeling when you realise a dog is a yapper is a orrible feeling thats for sure, the problem is that it wont become really apparent until you start working the dog, so best part of a years work bringing the dog on only to find it has this fault. :cray:

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Only reason dogs yap is because there no good. Best thing you can do is give um one last meal and you know the rest. Because they will only end up back in the field and some other poor c**t will do the same spend money on a bag of shit. I had a whippet bitch that worked well good little rabbiring dog. Marks up worked well with ferrets. I gave her to my pal as he had not got a dog to run up on dale. Any way i got a phone call saying hes had her out and shes not playing ball with him i said give itva few week and youll see a diffrent dog. One morning i gets a phone call saying she f****d off lol. He went out to ckean her out and feed her. And as hes turned his back shed jumped his six foot gate and f****d off . Well l thought dead dog no good wi roads. Well and hour went past and i thought al go have a look about for her. I asked a few people if theyd sin a whippet and got told they had spotted her two mile away on her way towards my village. When i got hime she was on my door step happy to see me. l felt a bit off a c**t but i told my pal he could have her and he helped me in the past. And i knew she had a good home and would get work up the dales. What a bitch lol

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i started my dog to young he never yaps or barks chaceing a rabbit but lets out a bark or a big growl when the rabbits got in the hedge,but most of the time if hes had his first run and catches he wont make a sound for the rest of the night :thumbs:

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yapping behind quarry is born out of frustration or exitement imo...to say a dog is no good just because it yaps is a bit silly..one mans meat is another mans poison imo..i'd sooner have a yapper that caught regular than a silent dog that couldnt catch game in a phone box

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I could put up with the odd squeak on a corner occasionally (and many dogs do for various reasons), but a full blown yodelling dog just isn't for me. :yes:

The feeling when you realise a dog is a yapper is a orrible feeling thats for sure, the problem is that it wont become really apparent until you start working the dog, so best part of a years work bringing the dog on only to find it has this fault. :cray:

Yodelling - good way of describing it - :thumbs:

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yapping behind quarry is born out of frustration or exitement imo..

 

Is it always?, nature or nurture is the question? I would say a good bit of both :yes:

Aye bit of both - I know a lad who has a beddy x dog and when it was young it would yap? Terrier in the mix??? :thumbs:

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Only reason dogs yap is because there no good. Best thing you can do is give um one last meal and you know the rest. Because they will only end up back in the field and some other poor c**t will do the same spend money on a bag of shit. I had a whippet bitch that worked well good little rabbiring dog. Marks up worked well with ferrets. I gave her to my pal as he had not got a dog to run up on dale. Any way i got a phone call saying hes had her out and shes not playing ball with him i said give itva few week and youll see a diffrent dog. One morning i gets a phone call saying she f****d off lol. He went out to ckean her out and feed her. And as hes turned his back shed jumped his six foot gate and f****d off . Well l thought dead dog no good wi roads. Well and hour went past and i thought al go have a look about for her. I asked a few people if theyd sin a whippet and got told they had spotted her two mile away on her way towards my village. When i got hime she was on my door step happy to see me. l felt a bit off a c**t but i told my pal he could have her and he helped me in the past. And i knew she had a good home and would get work up the dales. What a bitch lol

imo your first sentence is wrong. ive seen some damn good dogs that whimper abit on some runs, they have also put alot of game away time after time through out there life.

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yapping behind quarry is born out of frustration or exitement imo...to say a dog is no good just because it yaps is a bit silly..one mans meat is another mans poison imo..i'd sooner have a yapper that caught regular than a silent dog that couldnt catch game in a phone box

Frustration because it cant get the job done no dog should do it no dog. And all that about some one saying it stops after its caught one.Thats because the bunnies most probs not put a good run like the first bunnie did. A lot off people run them too young and havent got the wind at a young age 18 months i run my dogs
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Only reason dogs yap is because there no good. Best thing you can do is give um one last meal and you know the rest. Because they will only end up back in the field and some other poor c**t will do the same spend money on a bag of shit. I had a whippet bitch that worked well good little rabbiring dog. Marks up worked well with ferrets. I gave her to my pal as he had not got a dog to run up on dale. Any way i got a phone call saying hes had her out and shes not playing ball with him i said give itva few week and youll see a diffrent dog. One morning i gets a phone call saying she f****d off lol. He went out to ckean her out and feed her. And as hes turned his back shed jumped his six foot gate and f****d off . Well l thought dead dog no good wi roads. Well and hour went past and i thought al go have a look about for her. I asked a few people if theyd sin a whippet and got told they had spotted her two mile away on her way towards my village. When i got hime she was on my door step happy to see me. l felt a bit off a c**t but i told my pal he could have her and he helped me in the past. And i knew she had a good home and would get work up the dales. What a bitch lol

imo your first sentence is wrong. ive seen some damn good dogs that whimper abit on some runs, they have also put alot of game away time after time away through out there life time.

Bit of a difference between a dog "whimpering a bit on some runs" as you put it and something screaming its head off running a fence line on hedgerow...the bitch I posted about fell into this category...I couldn't put up with a dog that did this...no matter how much game it was stiffening... :thumbs:

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yapping behind quarry is born out of frustration or exitement imo..

 

Is it always?, nature or nurture is the question? I would say a good bit of both :yes:

the odd one or 2 i seen yapping were the fault of the owner ..pure and simple..entered on testing quarry way too early so born out of frustration...granted there are lines of yappers out there and folk buy them. who says a dog should be silent ? too much read into the old style poaching scenario where a noisy dog would have got you jail or worse. the ones i seen yapping were probably amongst the best foxing dogs around at the time and earned their keep. put it this way...which would you rather own..a dog that caught plenty but yapped now and again or a silent dog that couldnt catch shit? just coz a dog yaps now and again dont mean its got no desire..obviously there's jackers out there that yap ..but just as many that stay silent and jack..i know which one i'd choose...im not defending yappers by any means but to write a dog off for one fault seems a tad silly to me..every dog has bad habits ..just some folk will put up with this particular one..atb NMF

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