NEWKID 28,440 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I wouldn't put it past the stubborn old git mate lol.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 steve bruce aint gunna make a good prem manager, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 steve bruce aint gunna make a good prem manager, He hasn't done in the past mate, he's managed a few Premiership clubs.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm not sure if Mourhino will end up at Old Trafford... He's not got the backing of the board, but we'll see... Fergie would not be a hindrance to him though, fck me the Russians a hindrance to everyone lol.. As said earlier I think Solskjaer is in the frame, he's been mentored by fergie before moving to Molde and doing well... Possible talk of Ole with Neville as coach and Giggs having a role too... Fergie could oversee this without getting in the way, there'd be no egos to contend with either.. I like Mourinho, he's good for football at least he's interesting.. Ole is showing promise over at Molde, but I have reservations about any of Fergies ex players taking over the reigns. Look at the ex players who many thought would make great managers when they retired and took up managing, Keane, Bruce, Robson, Hughes, etc.. Not one of them has been able to prove theirselves at the level required to manage a club like united.. Some have done OK, some have been spectacular failures.. I think a hero at the club should be banned from taking up the managers postion. I mean i'd hate it if Larsson came back to manage the hoops and he made a c**t of it, it would tarnish what he did for us..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm not sure if Mourhino will end up at Old Trafford... He's not got the backing of the board, but we'll see... Fergie would not be a hindrance to him though, fck me the Russians a hindrance to everyone lol.. As said earlier I think Solskjaer is in the frame, he's been mentored by fergie before moving to Molde and doing well... Possible talk of Ole with Neville as coach and Giggs having a role too... Fergie could oversee this without getting in the way, there'd be no egos to contend with either.. I like Mourinho, he's good for football at least he's interesting.. Ole is showing promise over at Molde, but I have reservations about any of Fergies ex players taking over the reigns. Look at the ex players who many thought would make great managers when they retired and took up managing, Keane, Bruce, Robson, Hughes, etc.. Not one of them has been able to prove theirselves at the level required to manage a club like united.. Some have done OK, some have been spectacular failures..I think a hero at the club should be banned from taking up the managers postion. I mean i'd hate it if Larsson came back to manage the hoops and he made a c**t of it, it would tarnish what he did for us..... Can't agree with that mate, it's only the fickle brigade that thinks that way.....true football lads will always hold a hero of the club in high esteem for what he did as a player......if he can perform as a manager or not has nothing to do with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm not sure if Mourhino will end up at Old Trafford... He's not got the backing of the board, but we'll see... Fergie would not be a hindrance to him though, fck me the Russians a hindrance to everyone lol.. As said earlier I think Solskjaer is in the frame, he's been mentored by fergie before moving to Molde and doing well... Possible talk of Ole with Neville as coach and Giggs having a role too... Fergie could oversee this without getting in the way, there'd be no egos to contend with either.. I like Mourinho, he's good for football at least he's interesting.. Ole is showing promise over at Molde, but I have reservations about any of Fergies ex players taking over the reigns. Look at the ex players who many thought would make great managers when they retired and took up managing, Keane, Bruce, Robson, Hughes, etc.. Not one of them has been able to prove theirselves at the level required to manage a club like united.. Some have done OK, some have been spectacular failures..I think a hero at the club should be banned from taking up the managers postion. I mean i'd hate it if Larsson came back to manage the hoops and he made a c**t of it, it would tarnish what he did for us..... Can't agree with that mate, it's only the fickle brigade that thinks that way.....true football lads will always hold a hero of the club in high esteem for what he did as a player......if he can perform as a manager or not has nothing to do with it.I agree that a club legend will always be a legend, but the only problem is Wilf, the sentimentality that a legendary ex player could bring to a club could buy him more time to do a lot of damage to a team if he's no great shakes as a manager.. The board will treat said person with kid gloves to keep the fans sweet, even if the fans wont turn on him. Nobody else would have had an easy ride from the fans and board that Daglesh got at Liverpool during his recent spell in charge, despite the piss poor signings and dross on the pitch as one example.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 It the same as if PDC came home to the Boleyn mate, my head says " allergice is doing a sound job, got us back up, is keeping us up....it's all steady away which is as good as it gets most seasons for a team like us" My heart says come back Paolo, it could go either way football wise but it certainly won't be boring.....he would never leave his position as a true great in my eyes no matter what happened. IMHO PDCs biggest problem would be finding and having the ability to sign players who could match or begin to understand his football ethic......he could find it frustrating given the resources a club like ours has trying to compete in the top flight I have never been that much into blaming managers myself because at the end of the day, 11 professionals go out on the pitch and then it's down to them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I think Keane knows it wasnt a red.....but like anything else in the media you have to have a few controversial characters..............wouldnt be much of a tv or radio show if a bunch of blokes just sat around agreeing with each other would it................its like that dick Adrian Durham on talksport,yesterday he was saying Mourihno isnt much of a manager !!..............Keane is doing the same just going against the grain to create talking points in his mind he knows that wasnt a red...... As regards the referees i think a lot of them are trying to get in on the limelight of being in the football industry.....take that muggy Mark Clattenburg whatever his name is......3 years ago he looked like a choir boy,clock his barnet now he looks like a f****n pop star.......you run around blowing a whistle you big melt your not a showbiz personality.......same as these refs you see trying to be all pally with the players,makes me cringe. Refs are definately playing too big a part in the game at the moment in my opinion. See that post I've quoted of yours gnash, the part where the refs trying to be pally with the players makes you cringe? What makes you cringe about it? The fact that middle aged men are trying to be " down with the lads ".....trying to have a giggle with them and act like they are personal friends who go out on the town together of a weekend.........they referee football matches they either want the authority that carries,or they dont...........you dont get plod going out on the thief with the local scallies just so they can fit in with the lads !...........................think im starting to develop an unhealthy hatred for referees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hackett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm not sure if Mourhino will end up at Old Trafford... He's not got the backing of the board, but we'll see... Fergie would not be a hindrance to him though, fck me the Russians a hindrance to everyone lol.. As said earlier I think Solskjaer is in the frame, he's been mentored by fergie before moving to Molde and doing well... Possible talk of Ole with Neville as coach and Giggs having a role too... Fergie could oversee this without getting in the way, there'd be no egos to contend with either.. I like Mourinho, he's good for football at least he's interesting.. Ole is showing promise over at Molde, but I have reservations about any of Fergies ex players taking over the reigns. Look at the ex players who many thought would make great managers when they retired and took up managing, Keane, Bruce, Robson, Hughes, etc.. Not one of them has been able to prove theirselves at the level required to manage a club like united.. Some have done OK, some have been spectacular failures..I think a hero at the club should be banned from taking up the managers postion. I mean i'd hate it if Larsson came back to manage the hoops and he made a c**t of it, it would tarnish what he did for us..... Can't agree with that mate, it's only the fickle brigade that thinks that way.....true football lads will always hold a hero of the club in high esteem for what he did as a player......if he can perform as a manager or not has nothing to do with it. It would still tarnish it though. Being a legend at a club and then returning to make an arse of it as manager will always be brought up. Kenny Dalglaish.... Oh and fans can be fickle all right.....when Larsson returned to Parkhead with Barca and he done what he always done best, score, a guy about 20 seats away was calling him all the names under the sun....i was f***ing raging. How he never got knocked out that night is beyond me, maybe he did??.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,371 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) It the same as if PDC came home to the Boleyn mate, my head says " allergice is doing a sound job, got us back up, is keeping us up....it's all steady away which is as good as it gets most seasons for a team like us" My heart says come back Paolo, it could go either way football wise but it certainly won't be boring.....he would never leave his position as a true great in my eyes no matter what happened. IMHO PDCs biggest problem would be finding and having the ability to sign players who could match or begin to understand his football ethic......he could find it frustrating given the resources a club like ours has trying to compete in the top flight I have never been that much into blaming managers myself because at the end of the day, 11 professionals go out on the pitch and then it's down to them. Its a tricky time for the Hammers now.......if we finish around 14th/15th it will be a great season in my opinion........but looking forward its basic stick or twist time........do we stick with Sam and more than likely get a similar finish next year........or do we get someone whos willing to take more of a risk and try to push on and get a higher finish next year. As regards ex players managing their old club......West Ham have a big tradition for it probably more than any other club.....right back to Lyall and Ted Fenton !.......But other than the odd case like Keegan at Newcastle for a few years or even Allardyce at Bolton,historically its not usually gone well for most. I would love to see Paolo down here it wouldnt change anything for me in terms of his status at the club just the same as i felt no different about Bonzo after he naused it up......Look at the stick Brooking got as manager it still dont change the fact he,s an icon of the club. Whether it would work like that for the big clubs i dont know. Edited March 8, 2013 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,440 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I don't think the ex UTD players mentioned could ever lose the respect of UTD fans ( Solskjaer, Giggs, Neville) they've done too much for the club, but I see what Malt means regards if they are actually the right people for it.... The same as just because I think Keane talks a bit of crap, doesn't mean I forget what a player he was.... But, it could work with the ex players because they would use Fergie..... Another big profile manager probably wouldn't, you don't need to change much at UTD, the hard works been done already..... As for allerdyce, I can see a grudging bit of respect now from you Hammers...... But come on if Di Canio, was up for it he'd be first choice surely?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,007 Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I think a Club Ledgend can Cloud a Fans Judgement . . I'd love Adams in the Arsenal Hot seat . . Would it work ? You'd never know unless you Gave them a Chance , Man .U I feel Need A Maurinho Type who would Feel Comfortable with Fergie Looking Down On Him . . That Alone Could Destroy some off the Best Managers but the likes off Maurinho is Self Confident and would Relish Takin The Reigns off Fergie ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 It the same as if PDC came home to the Boleyn mate, my head says " allergice is doing a sound job, got us back up, is keeping us up....it's all steady away which is as good as it gets most seasons for a team like us" My heart says come back Paolo, it could go either way football wise but it certainly won't be boring.....he would never leave his position as a true great in my eyes no matter what happened. IMHO PDCs biggest problem would be finding and having the ability to sign players who could match or begin to understand his football ethic......he could find it frustrating given the resources a club like ours has trying to compete in the top flight I have never been that much into blaming managers myself because at the end of the day, 11 professionals go out on the pitch and then it's down to them. Its a tricky time for the Hammers now.......if we finish around 14th/15th it will be a great season in my opinion........but looking forward its basic stick or twist time........do we stick with Sam and more than likely get a similar finish next year........or do we get someone whos willing to take more of a risk and try to push on and get a higher finish next year.As regards ex players managing their old club......West Ham have a big tradition for it probably more than any other club.....right back to Lyall and Ted Fenton !.......But other than the odd case like Keegan at Newcastle for a few years or even Allardyce at Bolton,historically its not usually gone well for most. I would love to see Paolo down here it wouldnt change anything for me in terms of his status at the club just the same as i felt no different about Bonzo after he naused it up......Look at the stick Brooking got as manager it still dont change the fact he,s an icon of the club. Whether it would work like that for the big clubs i dont know. Can't see Gold and Sullivan taking the chance until all the books are balanced and the move is done, they won't want to move into the Olympic stadium as a 1st devision team......they wouldn't have the money to do it. I reckon it will go down like this: Keep it steady away for a few seasons until the move is over Sell the old place Let the dust settle then think about an exciting choice Finances sorted, money in the bank, a world class stadium and Paolo as manager.......it will be a dream ticket and season ticket sales will be through the roof.....just my guess 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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